Discipline is a choice I think. Motivation is more of a chemical thing?
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This makes sense to me. My motivation is trashed from my meds and negatives, but how else would I get stuff done if I didn’t choose to do it?
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Yeah If I didn’t make a conscious choice to do something I will just sit on the couch and do nothing then for a change of pace I will sleep
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Yep. Been doing a lot of that these past few months…
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It’s ok we gotta give ourselves slack too. That’s what my pdoc told me anyway.
We already have a full time job managing our brain 
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Amen to that.
That’s why I have to take major advantage of when I’m in a more up mood, bordering on hypomanic. This week, if my brain stays in the same place, I’m going to get a full housecleaning done. Try and exercise again.
I’ve been drawing in my reverse coloring book today, but maybe I can start sketching out some new jewelry/sculpture projects.
Remind me of this when I fall face first into hell again!!!
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One thing that happened to me is I got so sick of sleeping away my time that I made a choice to just be awake more and try and do something new. Even if it means just flicking on the TV for a bit.
From 2018 to 2021 I did a ton of sleeping 12 or more hours. It was one of my ‘solutions’ for my dark moods or boredom or frustration or whatever
From March to August this year I was sleeping by 7 or 8pm or even 6pm and getting up around 745 or 8am cuz I had to work. If I didn’t have to work I’d of slept way longer.
I was recovering from my manic episode in the winter.
Yeah I do the same I try to harness the up moods and rest more on the downs.
This takes A LOT. But at least you took care of yourself well enough and in a way that still allowed you to function at work. I was working until August, then I crashed into a really dark hell. I think my switch of APs may have contributed, so I switched back.
I consider myself still recovering from a vicious manic and psychosis episode all of 2019.
BUT
I always get out of bed. Even at my most depressed, I force myself up and out of bed and onto the couch and keep myself clean.
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I watched a cool video recently, that said motivation involves a combination of dopamine and adenosine…
In the morning, you have low adenosine, and low dopamine, which mines dopaminergic activities are very appealing and you’re easily distracted.
If you avoid dopamine activities early in the day, then adenosine builds up and you’re less easily distracted, and can get stuff done.
If you engage in dopamine activities early in the day, then the dopamine curve stays ahead of the adenosine curve, and you remain easily distracted.
By the end of the day you have tonnes of motivation from high dopamine, but are too tired due to adenosine, so you just think about doing things and never do them.
So the secret to being productive is to keep dopamine low until later in the day. Or that’s what the video said. You still need discipline though, to resist early dopamine activity.
Yes the psychosis and mania really takes a toll on the body and mind.
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For me, being honest with myself is really useful. If I’m sitting a chair reading this forum for four hours when there’s laundry to be done, I have to say to myself “hey, that was YOUR decision! So, tonight,when you wanted to watch a movie, you gotta do the wash. Pay more attention to what you’re doing!” I COULD say “man, you just took your morning Seroquel, that’s gonna make you tired, just kick back for now and see how you feel later”. But then I’m pulling the wool over my OWN eyes, coz OF COURSE I know about Seroquel, I know the laundrie’s due, but I’m LYING TO MYSELF to avoid something I JUST DON’T WANT TO DO. Sometimes I double-scam myself: I tell myself that I can’t do X (which I hate) coz of my sza, but I AM able to do Y (something I love) in spite of my sza. The daughter of a friend of mine uses this all the time. Brings it back to me how silly it all is.
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I LOVE this! Fantastic advice!
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Is it acceptable to change expectations to compensate for a disability? You are experiencing symptoms of schizophrenia and most jobs are made for a normie. Don’t beat yourself up over not being able to take on the responsibilities of someone without sz.
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Thats my problem. How to do this? I keep thinking about how good I was before sz and want to go back in time.
@iconoclast_01 , You sound just like me. I have motivation for things I love. None for things I hate.
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You are focusing an awful lot on your parents and how they are mistreating you.
When I start becoming unstable I hyper focus on my brother and father.
Are you sure you aren’t becoming unstable @Aziz?
Maybe it’s time to contact your doctor.
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What you mean by unstable? What I am saying is true, not paranoia or hallucinations.
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Yes maybe there is some truth to it but when I obsess on my brother and father I know I’m slipping some.
I’m just questioning your behavior online lately.
You have been very negative lately.
Verging on persecutory
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I think that’s all of us! I mean, who really wants to clean the bathroom? 