Was "schizophrenia" a spiritual awakening for you?

When I was a teenager I wouldn’t have necessarily called myself schizo, but I would semi-psychotic. I had a lot of psychological issues, including extreme social anxiety. Anyway, to make a long story short, once I started communicating with my voices and I started looking at it as spiritual I think I improved a lot more. It also seemed like an evolution of my world view and a re-education process.

Mentally I felt like my cognition greatly improved and I was thinking clearer than ever before, while at the same time my views of the world changed drastically and I went from being atheist to looking at my problem as what some would call demonic oppression. I felt like I evolved in personality and it was a definite personality change and change in world view - but for the better.

For me it just seemed like what made sense was that spirits had been manipulating me mentally the whole time and they were behind my psychological problems the years previous to it. I worked on deprogramming myself from their manipulations and felt like it helped to introspect what was happening in my consciousness and discerning if it were a manipulation of my psyche or not by something telepathic. My entity was interactive and did demonstrations of how they had been manipulating my consciousness and been putting me in what some would call psychotic states of mind.

Did anyone experience something similar?

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Hi Daimon,
Your experience sounds identical to mine… I feel fear about spiritual matters though. I am often negative and think about persecution… why people must dislike me. This in turn makes me feel more useless. Social anxiety is also common for me. I feel my heart flutter as if I won’t be accepted for who I am. I get really religious but feel unacceptable to the church in general… nightmare! As I got used to voices I feel less on edge, sometimes even positive but the more ill the more negative usually. Rationalizing it makes me think in terms of the spirit. My Dad says it would be a scientific sensation… it’s just dopamine going haywire I guess, not the non physical dream we get caught up in which is hard to believe.

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People act like it is “crazy” to view this as in part spiritual, but I am not completely bonkers and I view it this way. It is actually the traditional way of viewing this type of phenomenon.

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I mean, you got to admit, it does SEEM to be some kind of telepathic invasion. I believe this is what inspired the whole concept of demonic oppression. There are millions of people today who believe in the concept without even being affected by it themselves.

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What is traditional about hallucinating? It would be utterly conspiratorial for so many to be aware of a common spiritual realm without saying so unless only crazy people are normal like us! Maybe there are hopes of life beyond the physical but nothing could be further from spiritual than schizophrenia… spiritual relies on a world without physical body. Schizophrenia can cause a spiritual like experience that only occurs in your mind or mine. I am always vastly wrong about my voices which are never true. I check with the people once I have heard them and when I discover what a mad primarily they are I’m ashamed…

I don’t know, call me crazy, but maybe how it SEEMS to be is what it in fact is.

Well, traditionally people like us used to be viewed as possessed or oppressed by spirits. Some of us arguably still are, as the Catholic church still does exorcism. I am not sold on the idea this is all just a chemical imbalance. The meds haven’t stopped it for me and my experience does strongly SEEM to be some kind of telepathic invasion of my psyche.

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I promise voices are just anxieties which get amplified in the mind. Spirituality is something very different. Im not even sure I get spiritual!

I am not against meds at all. I advocate taking meds, but just the same I think more is going on here than just a chemical imbalance.

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That’s just a feeling 're invasion. It’s an illness without sense to the symptoms. You feel like it’s a spiritual invasion but it’s only you who has these feelings. There are no demons out to persecute you. Dopamine does scary mind altering stuff!

If it is just dopamine causing this how come the meds that treat a dopamine imbalance don’t stop it? That said, I think it is possible something about my brain is opening a door way to these entities. Perhaps that could be triggered by a chemical imbalance. I don’t know for sure.

Sorry man, I’m just not sold on the psychiatric narrative about this.

No problem… but if you challenge the viewpoint they are real or not you might feel a lot better…

Maybe it would help to share the details of some of your experiences that felt spiritual or have even led you to God. The experiences being nonphysical is one clue but not enough for people who are fully invested in the psychiatric communities explanation for our symptoms. After 10 years of this i have found that it is smart not to put all your eggs in one basket i.e. rely solely on the meds and doctors because when you have been med compliant and you are still in the depths of your hell you often times feel let down and betrayed by the pdocs and their scientific explanations. I have learned the importance of prayer and the value of developing a relationship with God. Ultimately if you believe that humans have a soul and that we are essentially spiritual beings then you are likely to believe there are some spiritual components to this disease. Theire is no way that with my experiences that i can invest full understanding of this disease in the psychiatric community especially when there are so many varying ideas about what causes the symptoms.

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My sentiments exactly.

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One other important thing we should ask ourselves is can spiritual and emotional problems truly be cured with medicine.

And the people who act like we are from a lunatic asylum just because we’re not buying it, all they ever tell anyone on here who disagrees with them or is struggling is to take medication and to institutionalize themselves. Well I am on the meds, still not buying it, and I’ll hold on to my freedom to, thank you very much.

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there is loads of movies about exorcisms

I would say schizophrenia like symptoms were a spiritual awakening. Never was diagnosed SZ, though schizoaffective is close enough.
When younger I am the one who didn’t understand what was going on and had NOBODY to teach me about the spiritual side at all.
When I began to learn about spiritual awakenings it explained just about everything that had been going on.

My reply to this is that there is a difference between hallucinating and spiritual visions. The 2 can seem identical. That can be a huge problem in differentiating between them.
My experience is this: Visions come few and far between, or maybe several over a week or 2, then stop for several months or even more than a year. They have meaning most of the time and can be explained on a spiritual level. Sometimes a vision will show you a scene of something that hasn’t happened yet and then it happens at a later time. These are prophetic visions and spiritual.
Hallucinations can happen regularly or not so regularly and usually carry no meaning at all. Your brain playing with your optics can create a variety of lights, trails, color fluctuations, wavy walls, etc.

There is a more obscure area here also where a person can literally manifest a vision projected from their own mind, ‘creating’ a hallucination or manifestation that is actual a projection of ones own thoughts, conscious or unconscious…that would be neither spiritual or hallucination, it has to do with natural energies on a quantum level.

Same goes for voices: spiritual voices are few and far between and have meaning. the biggest identifier of the spiritual voice will be confirmation, meaning that what you are told is either real knowledge or the thing told you actually happens later. Some of mine have been as simple as telling me to take certain turns when lost and what I will see when I do, and have been accurate, precisely.
Hallucinatory voices are more like this you said here:

But I also believe they can at times be demons with the mocking and belittling a lot of people get.

I have dealt with spiritual type manifestations most of my life. Any other symptoms or reactions I have had seem to be always based on either trauma I experienced or alcohol/drug use. I notice now and all the time I have spent off drugs and alcohol that the psychoseses involved are not present and when they were they were very temporary, not ongoing.

The spiritual manifestations on occasion have always come, and the best ones have been when I am completely sober. Spirit manifestations get twisted when you are drunk or high, and you can’t even really tell sometimes if they are spirits or the intoxicant talking.
I have however had some real spiritual experiences drunk and high, witnessed by others with me, some of who were sober at the time and we all heard or saw the same things. I have also frequented many haunted places in the past…places known for spirit manifestations.

Over the years i have learned to tell the difference between delusional experiences and real spiritual ones. It has all been an awakening. I learned far much more confronting it, learning about it from every angle, and not just one side.
I do not go for doctors explanations that its all in the head and is mental illness needing to be treated by drugs. i also do not go for the ultra spiritual that automatically tells people they are possessed or oppressed by demons. I realize both a spiritual AND psychological model may apply and view it from that standpoint, evaluating each experience depending on what it is…

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The great spiritual awakening of the future is the mass realization that there is no spirit.

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