Schizophrenia.com

Sz lowers IQ by up to 30pts

Sz reduces intelligence and IQ by up to 30pts!
Sucks.

“The deficits in cognition are seen to drive the negative psychosocial outcome in schizophrenia, and are claimed to equate to a possible reduction in IQ from the norm of 100 to 70–85. Cognitive deficits may be of neurocognition (nonsocial) or of social cognition. Neurocognition is the ability to receive and remember information, and includes verbal fluency, memory, reasoning, problem solving, speed of processing, and auditory and visual perception

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“Social cognition is concerned with the mental operations needed to interpret, and understand the self and others in the social world. This is also an associated impairment, and facial emotion perception is often found to be difficult. Facial perception is critical for ordinary social interaction. Cognitive impairments do not usually respond to antipsychotics, and there are a number of interventions that are used to try to improve them; cognitive remediation therapy has been found to be of particular help”

I have both. 15

It is what it is, Aziz. Not much we can do about it. Just have to hope you’re not one of those that are hit hard by it. It’s just one of those facts we have to face and try to improve where we can.

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Yea it could be worse, I am not treatment resistent, I have no positive symptoms.

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you were good in school , you probably had a pretty high iq already. So you can afford the 30 iq hit.
Some of us with lower iq maybe is not as good lol. I think my overall iq is probably good but i could be smarter academically.

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Idk some courses I barely passed especially practical ones. I suck at them.

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Also I was on Abilify back then, now I can barely think, I am slow and have no energy.

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Screenshot_2021-02-11 The World Genius Directory, High IQ Societies and IQ Tests168

http://www.psiq.org/home.html

17 doctors on the above list -medical/non medical

Screenshot_2021-02-11 WGR II World Genius Registry 152

https://worldgeniusregistry.org/wgr-ii

Wonderlic type avg = 51 with age bonus=155-162 IQ

Executive functioning, social cognition,non-verbal memory, visual short term memory- all not good.

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Good thing I had some to spare then.

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Aren’t iq tests timed tho?

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High range tests are usually untimed.

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You mean my IQ is zero?

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This is very scary information. :frowning:

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I’ll throw this into the discussion ; IMO practical intelligence can be significantly impaired with sz. To some extent also with ASD.

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My practical intelligence is low

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It doesn’t feel like my intelligence has lowered that much, but then again Idk

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High range tests invariably require-

Name, age, where from,proof of identity, previous scores (supervised and/or unsupervised) ,

There’s usually a fee for the taking and scoring of the test.

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I don’t care if my IQ is low, I can function 90% pretty normally and been told I don’t precent as intellectually impaired even though I’m diagnosed with a ID.

I have a housemate with SZ and he struggles more than me cognitively and it’s a real struggle for him sometimes. He’s a lovely person though.

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I think IQ can vary over time for a schizophrenic. Maybe.

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