For heterosexual males only, who successfully started dating for a long time after having sz? Do you also work? Are you married?

@Ninjastar @Headspark

Interesting no one’s called you misogynist.

Men focus on single aspect while dating. Not so with women. Is her prospect stable? Does he earn? Will he mold himself in relationship? Is he a loner? Is he good in dealing with people? Is he competent?

@Ninjastar Men are still likely to end up without kids/being single despite being mentally healthy.

@AhmShere I’m guessing you wrote that before my reply above. Hope my further explanation helped. There is a double standard, but I don’t believe it’s there for the same reasons @Headspark does.

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Yeah. I did read your reply.

Not all evolutionary processes are open for clear observation. Or conscious deliberations. What you called societal structures are highly likely result of evolutionary differences.

This is the attitude that gets dangerous. It is used as an excuse to not try to reform things.

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Our discussion won’t change reality, 80-88% of schizophrenics are single and most are male lol

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What is a misyogynist?

A man who hates women.

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Ah. That’s a bad man. :-1:

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Yes, it is. Very sad to miss out on half the planet.

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Man my thread got derailed, I hope it won’t get closed.

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People will label you no matter what your opinion is but I’m not misogynistic, I don’t hate women, I’ve gotten along with virtually every woman I’ve known my whole life, there have been a few where we just don’t have compatible personalities but I don’t dislike them just because they are women.

I’m was just speaking from a evolutionary point of view, an idealistic point of view. In the mating game people make exceptions, have impulse control, compromise, get abused, etc… it can get messy.

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Oh, I’m sorry. I didn’t realize the misogynist comment was referring to you. I didn’t read it. I just skimmed it. And then I answered @LevelJ1 's question.

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There’s a weird trend lately where people act like being mysoginist (or racist, homophobic, transphobic, etc) is an immutable part of someone’s identity, and that it is synonomous with “terrible person forever”. It isn’t. We need to start understanding the idea that everyone has their own prejudices,and can learn and grow from them. Labeling someone as a mysoginist doesn’t help in any way. It only causes the person to feel defensive and then shut out everything else. Nobody can think of themselves as an inherently terrible person and still work towards self improvement.

The message is too often “Hey i think you suck and will always hate you, but if you act properly ashamed I will allow you to occupy this lower space on the social ladder as long as you always remember how much you suck.”

Nobody learns that way. People need to know that they can be forgiven and loved and accepted and respected and appreciated. Simply saying “you are mysoginist” does nothing to help someone learn what parts of their beliefs are harmful.

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Anyways, sorry, I’m derailing again. Sorry. The kids brought home a cold, and I am sick. @anon67051439 if you want, I can close this thread and you can make a new one.

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Na its fine, I got some good replies.

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This is one of problems interacting online. Things don’t get conveyed in way they would in person. Humor and sarcasm is difficult to discern from actual insults and accusations online.

I didn’t intend to accuse you of being women hater. Misogynist comment was actually sarcasm.

I agree with everything you stated about evolutionary psychology of human relationships. As I do with @Ninjastar said about hetero guy with disability having difficulty dating. And double standards around it. And women more likely being victims in men-women crimes.

Not with it being cultural thing. And it being dangerous attitude and excuse to not reform things.

Recently in India Supreme Court made it clear that women should have full commission in military. I happen to support it and was bit annoyed by Government and military’s reluctance of it. This stance of mine can be called pro-women. I don’t support relaxing physical training requirements for women. This later part can be called anti-women and sexist/misogynistic. This doesn’t make me women hater. Or misogynist.

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Derailing the thread…

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Sounds a bit old fashioned. Four years older is fine and especially if you like her.

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I didn’t really like her, she wasn’t my type.

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Is that even legal in Syria?