To me the forbearance of suffering, without retaliation, is a great achievement. Perhaps even heroic.
Any thoughts on this?
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Who says we are failures?
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Ourselves 15151515
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Ive seen many threads where people think theyre a failure because they havent had material success. Its not uncommon.
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I personally never see myself as being a failure… ever
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That is good. 15151515
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I am not a failure! Everyone has their issue. Choose to be an overcomer.
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I wasnt calling you or anyone else a failure, that should be clear from the thread title. I was referring to some szs who regard themselves as one because they havent achieved much material success.
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Thanks for the thread. I consider myself a failure.
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Thats fine @everhopeful its your opinion as i gave my opinion. We can agree to disagree on this.
I’m serious. I wasn’t being sarcastic.
I feel like a failure. I’ve felt like a failure ever since I dropped out of university.
I appreciate the thread.
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Yea I agree. I think there’s a certain kind of strength that we have for peacefully going through all that suffering.
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I know you were being serious we both have opinions on this which differ its not a big deal.
For some context i made this thread after posting in
https://forum.schizophrenia.com/t/failure-most-complete/304173
Opinions like feeling a failure are often deeply ingrained in someones personality so i didnt think this thread would change anyones mind.
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I dont think i can say anything to change your opinion. But will anyway… youve been on this forum a long time and youve always been great at helping and supporting others. To me this is a success a big achievement. Its not material but no less important for that.
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So long as you Understand - Life goes up and down in waves. You gotta have the bad stuff, to balance out and appreciate the good times.
And some times - the best lessons you learn in life - is when you have to go thru turmoil and suffer for it.
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Hell yeah!
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Beautifully said @fingolfin .
I don’t see myself as a failure but society sees me as a loser.
My “sister” and “family” look and talk down at me and are disrespectful and think they are superior to me.
My “sister “ Is obsessed with me and comparing herself to me in her favour and she cheats lies steals does anything to make herself look superior and is always either trashing me hatefully n attacking me or being fake and pretending to be nice while doing evil psychology on me.
I’m not a competitive person and I avoid those who behave in such ways specially when they cheat n lie n steal while being competitive it’s beyond playing dirty.
They definitely see me as a loser as does my community or majority of community I live in but they are not my people.
Unfortunately i don’t live with my people.
I was brought up with and by the enemy who tried to destroy me.
I definitely get treated with disrespect by majority people.
The way they treat me is ugly.
Doesn’t feel nice being treated that way.
Why I isolate.
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I have failed at some things and have succeeded at others. That’s life.
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I don’t think schizophrenics suffer because they are failures.
Suffering is a broad diverse issue
I think a lot of schizophrenics want reasons
I am fighting my suffering
I also don’t believe people should suffer
To not suffer at all might be one of the greatest life’s to live
Right now I think achievements require to much suffering to accomplish or maintain
I personally am suffering because I want to achieve more
people show me how they made and maintain their accomplishments
Before that I thought achieving things was abnormal and impossible with schizophrenia
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Failure is really only when you dont do something someone else wants you to do. If you cant do something you probably should just do something else.
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