Why do delusions persist despite contradictory evidence and why does medication help

Anyone wonder why this is because the medication doesnt effect the right hemisphere where delusions come from but the prefrontal cortex.

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Well, we can split delusions into four categories:

  1. those that are a byproduct of hallucinations
  2. those that are a byproduct of our emotions
  3. those that we are conditioned to believe to be true
  4. those that we want to believe to be true

Since antipsychotics mainly target hallucinations, then eliminating the hallucination eliminates the type 1 delusion.

Type 2 delusions originate in our emotional centers, such as the prefrontal cortex. Destroy the emotional tie, destroy the type 2 delusion.

Conditioning is the process of continuous training of a certain belief or belief system. If a person can be conditioned, then they can be deconditioned. Do that, and the type 3 delusion disappears.

And finally, we have the type 4 delusion, or the delusion that someone wants to believe. For this sort of delusion, you need to figure out why the person is holding on to their belief system so tightly. How is it helping them? Help the person move on from whatever’s holding them back, and the delusion may shift or lessen in intensity, but is unlikely to be completely abandoned.

In conclusion, delusions may end in the right hemisphere, but I highly doubt that they begin there.

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I dunno man I don’t wanna believe my delusions but they seem so real it’s hard not to. So it’s a constant battle between belief and non belief. Freaking roller coaster ride.

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Maybe reality is very much different and complex than we can even imagine and comprehend. I don’t think sz dot com mods are gods. I do like them and respect them though and try to follow the rules.

Maybe it has nothing or little to do with the brain at all. I don’t know. Sometimes, I doubt mental illness is even real or exists that it’s a social construct and something to make people sick. I’m not saying it’s just the government, but that it’s a totalitarian government/Illuminati from the future or even evil aliens that are watching us. I believe government is inherently good, not bad, and we need it.

My beliefs are delusions because doctors and humans cannot understand. We’re in the dark ages essentially (hope we don’t go back after simulation theory). The meds help but it’s like a band aid on a gun shot wound. The contradictory evidence you and others claim is weak or illogical at best. Until you come up with a theory of everything, build a universe, or even complete string theory – I’m not buying it and your not convincing me.

The meds do help and some people are just plain schizophrenic/delusional. Some meds work right away and people move on with their lives. Some like me continue to struggle. I have never hallucinated anything even off meds and at my worst. I just have beliefs nobody cares or understands to listen to. I think I like schizophrenics and especially the unusual beliefs sections because it’s open minded and we can talk freely. No one really believes schizophrenics anyways. Imagine if they did…

I thought I had brain damage. I have a white spot or tumor or some â– â– â– â–  in my frontal lobe. Thought it was an implant for a while. Not sure if this has caused my delusions, increase in empathy, or total destruction in my ability to function. I also have a pineal cyst that may have been induced through trauma or is another possible implant in my opinion. Had some weird dreams that I have implants even up my ass lol.

Holy shĂ­t, dude! You have a brain tumor in your frontal lobe?!

They don’t know. Most likely, probably not. But they can’t rule it out. No further tests were recommended. It’s like 3 mm so it’s small. The most likely explanation is chronic migraines, but I don’t get headaches. Migraines can cause brain damage. Same thing with schizophrenia I think. I have white matter hyper intensities that are nonspecific in my brain. They listed a whole bunch of possibilities including a very small tumor or some ■■■■ ( I googled it). I’ve had 2 MRIs so far. Nothing. Just white hyper intensities or whatever.

I think it’s most likely a microchip than a tumor. If I was rich, I’d get the pineal cyst removed first though. I hate that thing. Even thought it was causing psychiatric symptoms even though it’s only 9 mm.

İ have some constant delusions about this. Whenever i m happy or take pleasure from life i feel someone going to ruined or destroy me.or whenever i get peace and earn some money someone going to jelaous and try to harm me. When i wrote it look like nonsense but for me emotionally so true.is anyone has delusion similar to this?

That’s the million dollar question. The simple answer is our brains are f*cked up. If you delve into it further you will be where researchers are at; namely nowhere, lol. No one knows.

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I suppose most of my delusions fall into type 4 but I dont think its necessarily bad but idk

So I actually have an idea about this.

You know how people that take drugs say it “expands their consciousness”? And what is their experience? Depending on how “expanded” their consciousness gets, it might be visual hallucinations, delusions running the gamut, etc.

At the end, they go “well that was a weird trip” and maybe feel like they learned more about themselves.

But there’s a Bell curve distribution for most human characteristics. Why not “expansiveness of consciousness”? It would stand to reason that there are some people out there whose day to day is a battle with their mind detaching from reality like they are on some form of drug. For those people, this battle to align themselves with the shared reality might be exhausting, much like it would totally suck for a random person to have to go to school/work while tripping on LSD day after day.

So what if we gave this population drugs that “restricted” the consciousness to keep the fluctuations in how they experience reality more in line with whats actually occuring?

The side effects of those drugs might be dulling experiences, just as the experience of “consciousness expanding” drugs is heightened sense of experiences, music, etc.

And given that we know that lobotomies seemed to horribly damage that sense of identity and self, it is likely that our experience of consciousness is to some degree located in the frontal lobe.

Basically, everyone likely has minor delusions (Dunning-Kruger as an example). But for people who experience reality the way other people would experience it on drugs, the “range” on those delusions gets way out of hand. Instead of simply thinking you are slightly better at basketball than you really are, you suddenly find yourself believing that Larry Bird is afraid you’ll end up ruining his record when you come into your prime and has hired people to take you out of the picture.

I suspect part of the reason we don’t really have answers is that the very notion of consciousness is a bit of a taboo subject in academia. After discovering DNA, Francis Crick spent the rest of his career trying to search for it in the brain at the Salk Institute and, despite having a Nobel prize under his belt, ended up the butt of a joke among most scientists. Personally I agree with Crick that there’s nothing more important we could possibly be discovering about our brains than the nature of consciousness, but I understand the reluctance by the scientific community - it appears to be a puzzle so beyond our current level of knowledge as to seem futile.

But that’s my personal theory on sz and the drugs to treat it.

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