When things you really like suddenly are socially problematic

I’ve noticed one by one all the things I really like are being torn apart and made to be socially unacceptable things.

It’s most noticeable and easy to describe with entertainment.

A famous example would be movies like “Blazing Saddles” going from the most hilarious film you’ve ever seen to being given a “trigger warning” by HBO.

Another HBO offense is a cancelling “Summer Heights High” spin off with Mr. G.

I was a real big fan of Chris Lilley and found his early shows to be some of the most well executed comedies I’ve seen and I loved them.

Now, not only did they put a quick end to a new show, I can’t find the old ones!

No one wants them on their platform.

A big example I have to be careful with are the super-dated slang words I use.

Now I’m an adult with that ■■■■ permanently attached to my whole brain and I’m being told it’s inappropriate.

I 100% see why my grandma like shut down her ability to like new things and/or people past like 1972.

She hated younger generations and thought everyone was idiots.

I just thought she was a bitter old lady.

But now I totally get it, Grandma.

Am I a jackass or is this a realization that happens in everyone’s lifetime as culture changes?

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Suddenly these guys are problematic

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Their show has always been problematic.

I’m not a fan, never have.

But I see what you’re saying.

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Ugh… I hate Friends (the show)

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I remember thinking this about “Grease” when it was mentioned on this forum as being offensive and racist and whatever else in some article. Maybe I can find that old post.

Anyway, I haven’t seen it in many many years but it was one of my favorites as a kid. Maybe I need to do a re review to see what is so bad about it.

Yes, I think your right. With time what people think is appropriate changes with every generation. Maybe take comfort in the fact that this upcoming generations sensibilities will soon be outdated just like everyone elses :grin:

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Some things you give up, some things you hang onto and give the finger to those who protest. A lot of the people who don’t like Blazing Saddles are joyless @#$%s who actively seek out stuff to complain about. Just tell that lot to @#$% off. Taking them seriously only empowers them and no one should.

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I think you’re right, you adjust with time and realize that some things you used to think were ok , aren’t. But you dont fold everytime someone makes a protest about something either.

For example I just looked at some of the complaints about grease in some articles and some of them have some merit. Things do change and so can your perspective, this doesnt mean that you have to bend to the will so that everyone is perfectly happy.

And banning things, like they talked about with grease, because someone might be offended, is not the way to go in my opinion.

Edit: I also think that some of the complaints about Grease, are unfounded.

It’s definitely a thing that happens as you get older. Lots of older stuff is pretty problematic, but I don’t really care if people still enjoy the movie or show. I actually love Friends and they make several transphobic jokes on there. I just recognize it wasn’t a well known thing back then and still even today wouldn’t be super surprised hearing those things. I think it’s good to talk about but canceling people who enjoy it doesn’t really do much lol

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I never really liked that show either.(friends)

I enjoyed Seinfeld though.

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I don’t really think a trigger warning is the same as canceling. It is meant to warn about triggers. A trigger (the actual definition) is a stimulus that can exacerbate the symptoms of health conditions. Caffeine can trigger migraines in some folks. Salt can trigger high blood pressure in some folks. That movie is full of things that can trigger PTSD symptoms and anxiety symptoms in some folks.

The real issue I have is the large sect of the population that somehow decided that “triggering” means “offensive and harmful” and it is their personal job to remove it from existence by shaming anyone who happens to enjoy it.

I think it comes from having poor boundaries. They don’t have a firm sense of where they end and other people begin. They are harmed by the thing, therefore EVERYONE must find it harmful. People who claim not to be harmed are either too afraid to admit the truth, or they are bullies who love hurting others by quietly watching media in their own homes instead of publicly screaming about how they hate it.

HBO removing shows might not be about cancel culture though. I think it has more to do with the writer’s strike.

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I haven’t seen blazing saddles in a long time…so I may be forgetting a lot. The biggest trigger that I can think of in that film is the use of the “N” word repeatedly. So I can certainly see where someone might not like the use in the film and find it offensive.

But if I remember correctly, those who used it were the ignorant townsfolk, who were portrayed as idiotic buffoons. So the movie portrays the racists in a negative light.

But like I said, its been ages since I’ve seen it so maybe there is more that I am missing.

They are saving $$$. Removing shows means not having to pay actors residuals.

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This reminds me of one of my favorite scenes.

“People of the Land”

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oh all the shows I loved growing up are seen as racist or some other offense as I get older…I see it too.

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Sometimes that doesn’t have an effect on whether something is triggering. For example, my kid’s friend is autistic, and has echolalia and scripting. This boy has sat and recited entire episodes of TV shows unconsciously while playing Mario. If he were to see Blazing Saddles, he could get himself into real trouble. Taboo words tend to trigger scripting behaviors

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I would love to comment on this thread but i wouldnt be able to say what i truly think without it becoming too political for this forum.

yes. i’m waiting for montey python sketch comedy to go down any minute.

all for progress but i’d be sad due to the fact that i liked it when i was young.

I’m very interested in physics. When I talk about it with people they get weirded out. I’m just not socially adequate.

Seinfeld was a great show. :bear::bear::bear:

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Yeah, I used to really like smoking crack but most people frown upon it.

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