Yes. Alien is evil spirit living in my head and he puts his thoughts into my head. When he puts these in my head I suddenly have a thought that’s in my head but it didn’t come from me - its foreign. Like there’s two people in my head not only me.
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Yes sometimes . I fear my own mind, and Lucifer as well
Yeah I have intrusive thoughts and I also have OCD
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My ex girlfriend has OCD.
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All right. I think we can decide with pretty much certainty that this is better classified as thought insertion than just intrusive thoughts. In fact, it is both, because the insertion feels intrusive.
That’s what I was trying to clarify. Is schizophrenia something “external”? Is another part of yourself (eg. your subconscious or a dissociated personality fragment) something “external”? And if thoughts are in fact being inserted and withdrawn, is it a delusion? At least something is happening for real – what do you call it?
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I have intrusive thoughts and inserted thoughts. Not sure what the difference is except inserted thoughts seem foreign or inserted and not from me, but are ‘inserted’ in my head from an external source like ET, chip, AI, God, quantum physics, parallel universes, past lives, etc. Knowledge that comes from no-where, but it’s hard to get at and prove and makes me miserable 9/10.
Intrusive thoughts are like ocd and don’t go away and I cannot control them or stop them. They cause pain and discomfort and are just as bad or worse. Sometimes, they can be beneficial when trying to solve a problem or finish a task I think.
Is thinking and obsessing that the landlord is out to get you an intrusive thought?
The thoughts I believe are inserted don’t stay with me - when Alien retreats they go away. I do recall them later by myself but I don’t obsess about them. Only when Alien makes appearance and inserts the thoughts do they cause distress.
Lucifer and his servant Louisa, want me to kill and get killed as in an amok
No, no, yes, and no, nothing is happening for real, which is why it’s called a delusion.
Something is happening in the brain, or at least in the mind. Otherwise, you would not have these experiences in the first place. Thoughts and feelings are real, even though they are not made of matter, just like sunlight is real.
The delusion lies in the improbability of the belief and the rigidity with which you hold on to it in light of reasons/evidence to the contrary. Eg. clinging to the belief that the CIA or your doctor are controlling your mind through a brain implant, even though it’s more probable that your own thinking is disordered due to a neurological or psychological affliction.
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You’re being way too pedantic about this. Yes, that is how delusions work. It’s happening in the brain and it’s a normal result of the disease, not entities or technology or anything external controlling your thoughts.
DID personalities and schizophrenia are not external. If you believe something other than your own mind is removing or inserting thoughts, it’s thought withdrawal/insertion, regardless of whichever feelings accompany the delusions.
Alien the evil spirit results in my sza - not the other way around
At least that’s my belief!
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Intrusive thoughts according to my old psychologist - who for the record I dislike - are all part of the normal human experience, and should not be considered a symptom.
I am not sure if I believe her. It gave me some confidence for a while to not let them bother me, but they’re slowly coming back to me, and it’s making me very irritable
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@Hadeda, Intrusive thoughts are your own unwanted thoughts that you struggle to get rid of. But they are definitely your own thoughts. This is part of an anxiety issue most likely OCD.
On the other hand, thought insertion is when you feel like thoughts from someone or something else is being forced or inserted into your head. This is thought insertions and it is a form of psychosis.
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I think I get inserted thoughts much more than intrusive thoughts because the unwanted thoughts don’t stick in my mind but come and go. And they’re foreign.
Most of my thoughts are mine but sometimes (not every day) I get thoughts inserted in my head. I get unwanted thoughts every day but usually it’s me calling to mind the thoughts that Alien had inserted in the near past. But they don’t stick all day.
Eg. Alien puts thought in my head to kill dog. It’s definitely not mine and causes irritation and distress. Then it passes and later I remember the thought in passing but it’s me recalling Alien.
I know exactly when it’s placed in my head and when it’s my recalling the placed thought. It feels different.
It’s difficult to describe but I can sense the difference
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It definitely sounds like thought insertions. You should tell your pdoc about it.
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That sounds like paranoia
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Thanks Loke 1515
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