I’m pretty sure we’re on two pages with how that article reads, as we are on two pages on Noises tone throughout this conversation.
You have two trans people explaining to everyone in this thread we don’t like this
And your response is that we’re in the wrong because we are aggressive
I see no aggression anywhere, but tone is impossible to understand through text.
But anyway, I’m again dipping out, no hard feelings at all, just not seeing eye to eye and that’s okay.
YEah, you are right. Text can be difficult to interpret. I’m not saying you are aggressive.
I would not say you are being aggressive, but that it’s a very sensitive issue. The thing about micro aggression and unconscious bias or prejudice is that it is done without sensitivity or specific intention of being prejudice. So what some perceive as a mistake in unintentional prejudice, you perceive from them as micro aggression.
Yeah, we all have to work on our unconscious bias, while maybe the recipients could work on making their feelings heard in a calm way, and try not to think that there is malice or ill will behind the comments. Not everyone is intentionally trying to insult you.
I understand though because of all the people in the world, family should be most accepting. And it does become micro aggression when you receive prejudice both at home and in the world. It can be tiring listening to it everyday. So I get that. @Noise and @Moon
Just want to point out much of this argument is based on a misunderstanding of Noises tone, Noise apologized and said that’s not what they meant, and still we argued about tone policing. Me and Noise stated we never get anyone here was intentionally trying to be rude.
At my workplace we have the option to put our preferred pronouns in parentheses after our name. For example, using my forum name, it would be Moonbeam (she/her/hers) in my case, as an example. That way it’s clear to everyone in the company in written communication, when we are on zoom meetings, etc
In in-person meetings, for example, I can introduce myself by saying “My name is Moonbeam and my preferred pronouns are she/her/hers”. However, people may still make mistakes in using the correct pronouns, especially for people they dont know well. I have many times jumped in and corrected people if they used incorrect pronouns when referring to another employee in a conversation or meeting, especially if the employee was not there to make the correction themselves.
I feel like the real issue is what Wave said regarding his relative. If anything it was a mistaken prejudice, which you perceive as micro aggression. I think it’s safe to say it wasn’t intended as an insult. Just a lack of awareness. It is very tricky to know what pronouns to use. I’ve always referred to you as they/them but like @Bowens has said I wasn’t sure either. Just to play it safe I just use your username when referring to you, so I don’t need to use pronouns. You never know. 
Well this has all been a mind ■■■■ to be sure
If I call it prejudice, I’m wrong
When a cis person does ? Different results
Interesting
I’m literally agreeing with you that it is unintentional prejudice.
YOur taking offence at nothing @Moon . Sweetpotato thinks it was unconscious prejudice. I think it was a simply a mistake. Just a matter of opinion. who knows whos right. I just know that I couldve easily made the same mistake. so I felt compelled to speak up. We are all human.
I appreciate that, I wasn’t saying anything negative about you
Ok my bad, I was just confused at the differences in reception to opinions.
what reception? I liked her post…no one else even commented.
Yeh, the article is mainly about the existence of unconscious bias. Usually it happens when someone is trying to compliment someone or unintentionally insults a minority. Like the comment that I’m Asian so I must be excellent in math. It’s a compliment, but also prejudiced or biased. The other side will perceive it as micro aggression, as they receive these comments daily from everyone. I think that was the gist of the article.
Ok so I gotta say the point that’s being argued never even happened… We’re talking about that I might have been too harsh on wave. Which I clarified my intentions and apologized. Bowens then continued to run with the narrative that I’m jumping down people’s throats. Even after it had been cleared up
Like me and @Moon have been trying to explain the harm and the problems that come with expecting every trans person to always be polite when facing prejudice. Grookey even linked an article that Bowens wouldn’t even read.
Grookey has done nothing short of be polite and try to educate and explain.
It’s stuff like this that is infuriating. Cause we try to explain ourselves and our experiences and we get turned into the villains because it’s not palatable.
No, I continued my point that sometimes people in general jumped down peoples throats to illustrate my original point. It had nothing to do with your comment at that pooint. Just clarifyiing my stance.
I actually think @Bowens was fine. I think it’s a sensitive subject for you. He’s just saying to give people like wave a break as they are not trying to be intentionally prejudice.
This was in my original reply to wave. In which I was just trying to explain the problematic behavior. I ain’t trying to fight. I never said they were doing it intentionally.
So basically we’re arguing about something that never happened because it’s a trope for what people expect out of this kind of topic
It kind of snow balled.