Should i try clozapine or another 2nd generation?

Medications
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@SunLion? & @joker? Whats been up lads?

What do you think? Considering your experiences?

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Could you go into more detail, Re your expieriences and stuff?

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How long did it take to do stopping? How many meds are you on?

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Why last resort? And how many antipsychotics did you try before trying it?

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Would you try it if you were in my shoes?

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Why have you tried it?

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Also @joker, when did the calmness that you expierience set in with clozapine?

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Iā€™m still slowly getting off it
Iā€™m taking 4 different meds

One of them is to reduce heart rate caused by Clozapine

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What are the four meds? How long did it take you to develop that tachocardia?

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@Schztuna do you find that your agiataed on abilify at all? And what do you do to stop that?

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It was soon after. Got more calm over time

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I was off medication for several months due to trying every medication and none working. Recently I got very scared of my voices and said I would try clozapine again because that is the most successful one.

So far Iā€™ve had minimal successes. Iā€™m still hanging in there.

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Iā€™m sorry sonnyio that the meds canā€™t fix your problem. I know how scared you feel as I heard voices in the past aswell.
I was on Clozapine 600 mgs 27 years ago and that one did me well.
You must stay on Clozapine for at least half a year to see the end result and you must let your scrink adjust the dose up and down all after your mental status.

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Hiya @Superdryā€” I still do get agitated on Abilify but not to the same degree I do while off meds.

To stop agitation is a bit tricky, but Iā€™ve found that drinking cold water helps distract me from being agitated funnily enough.

Hope youā€™re well :+1:

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Donā€™t use the clozapine. Itā€™s basically poison. Thatā€™s my two cents

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I tried to get off of Risperdal and its cousin Invega a number of times and ended up in the Psych Ward due to side effects on two occasions. One occasion amounted to 4 times in a year. Risperdal and Invega did not rid me of my symptoms but controlled them fairly well but I was unhappy with the weight gain. The side effects of the replacement meds were shocking and very terrible.

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I have been on cloz for a year and only things it has done to me are weight gain and sleeping 12 hours a night.Still hear voices and have delusions

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Yeahā€¦ I kinda agree. CLOZAPINE is a very strong Ap. Might be the strongest one. You could say is a distroyer. Good or bad. Thatā€™s the down side, it makes no difference what it stops, voice, thinking, delusions or memoryā€¦so onā€¦ it makes no difference. Besides, it takes your immune system down the ground.

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Although clozapine helped with my symptoms, it ruined my stomach and all i did was sleep. And the constant bloodwork was a pain. It works great for some but it is definitely a last resort drug.

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Clozapine
Sertraline
Propranolol
Clonazepam

I developed tachycardia a few months after I started clozapine. Since clozapine was a miracle drug at the time that stopped my positive symptoms, my pdoc kept me on it and prescribed Propranolol to lower heart rate

Now Iā€™m at very minimal amount of clozapine and reduced also propranolol by half
Slowly gonna get off it. My pdoc wants to try Vraylar at this point

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