From the article…
We identified 29 schizophrenia patients of exceptionally high pre-morbid intelligence (mean estimated pre-morbid intelligence quotient (IQ) of 120)…These findings provide evidence for the existence of a high-IQ variant of schizophrenia that is associated with markedly fewer negative symptoms than typical schizophrenia
That may explain me, I have few negative symptoms. I’ve been taking IQ tests online for 20 years (just for fun and something to do). the highest I ever scored was 152 but I usually average around 130 and it has never wavered from that. I began taking online IQ tests before and after developing schizophrenia.
Other than a mild case of the flat affect negative symptoms are not a big deal for me. My positives were pretty wild though, I had some crazy experiences.
I’m in a similar situation. My pre schizophrenia IQ was 138, but I haven’t been tested in years. My negatives are very mild, but my positives have caused some crazy, crazy experiences
I know you guys are smart. Here are the smartest schizophreniics
Guess I’m not smart enough. Phooey.
Pre- sz, my IQ was 122, according to psychological testing. Now, it is around 100 to 109 according to online testing. And I have negative symptoms, but they are mild.
Highest high range verbal 168 IQ
Highest high range numerical 146 IQ
Highest high range non-verbal 143 IQ
Pre teen 147 IQ
@firemonkey Those are really good scores, how are your negative symptoms?
blunted effect - though that might be due in part to the medication
Difficulty showing initiative
Low ambition/drive
Very limited social interaction
Difficulty initiating conversation
I’ve posted this article before when we have had these discussions on intelligence related to Sz. There are some schizophrenics with higher intelligence but the painful truth is that schizophrenics tend to have lower intelligence, on average, than the general population. Sz is definitely not an indicator of high intelligence despite what some people would like to believe.
I don’t have negatives but I also don’t have hi indelijince
Neat!
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Hmm?. . .
Case In Point: Able To Function. Able To Take Care Of Self. Able To Think, Ponder, And Analyze.
Able To Dream.
Able To Complete Tasks.
Able To Still Be The Person You Want To Be. (Not You Personally, But Schizophrenics).
Able To Socialize.
Able To Still Look Forward To The Tomorrows. After All Of The Uphill Battles. While Staying Focused.
AINT NO MOUNTAIN HIGH ENOUGH
Intelligence Numbers Are Numbers. Like Our Age.
Jus A Number.
Truth Is, Everyone Reading My Response To Your Post Has Already Succeeded.
Most Jus One Hop, Skip, And Trot Away From Achieving Excellence.
Why Downplay Those Who Deal With One The Toughest Mental Illnesses In The Universe?.
Humility Is Important Yes.
Jus Like KNOWING, There Is Much More To Come.
So, In Quick Ever Elusive Retrospect.
I Say, BELIEVE IN YOURSELF, FOR YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT TOMORROW WILL BRING!.
Because I’m a realist @ATARI .
Before sz I was the best student in college, my grades were so high that my teachers invited me to math and physics competitions where I can win 10k$. They also asked me if I want to teach other students and get paid.
I think you’re in Canada so here you have to do college in order to get accepted in university. Despite that I was really smart before sz, my negative symptoms suck ass.
After seeing what @firemonkey had to say about his negatives, yet high iQ, and knowing about your negatives even though you are smart, I don’t think this study is anything definitive. Maybe just a trend they found, the sample size wasn’t even that large.
Hmm?. . .
I Guess You’re Not Much Into Music, Movies, And Or Literature?.
Nature?.
The Space And Time Within Space And Time?.
Yea I am not the only one, thers some members here who were in medschool presz and now have bad negative symptoms.