Remember this?

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didn’t watch the clip, too disturbing, but yeah, I’ve heard of him.

is it for money, or fame, or both, why they decide to fight?

ever since Million Dollar Baby movie, I’ve been like, What the fu-ck.

Yeah, both. Pride. To be called the best. They both had something to prove.

just an individual fight, or of all time?

hard to say who was the best.

McGregor was a top MMA fighter who wanted to prove he could beat the best boxer. Floyd Mayweather was that boxer. Mayweather wanted to add to his legacy.

MMA is strange, the other guy can pummult the guy on the floor.

it was on my bucket list, to see it, saw it in Dubuque, Iowa.

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The problem with boxing is that it causes brain damage. Mohammed Ali probably would have lived to be 110 years old if he hadn’t boxed.

true that. My uncle Paul’s hero, though. ha.

Yeah, it was a tragic ending for him. But look at all the glory he got from boxing.

Yes. That does make it compelling, but a lot of great athletes say they wouldn’t have boxed if they had any other way of making money and distinguishing themselves. People talk about how Hemingway had a penchant for violent sports, but a couple of his stories express mixed feelings about them. In a couple of his stories the violence seems pointless.

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I don’t recall that. you mean short stories. I just am familiar with his novels.
but yeah, bull fighting.

There is a story he wrote titled “Fifty Grand”. In it is an over the hill champion who is pretty much burnt out on boxing. He is scheduled to fight a promising newcomer. This champion bets fifty thousand dollars on his opponent to win the fight. When they are in the ring the ex-champion is trying hard to make his loss look convincing, and the newcomer hits him hard in the groin. If the champion goes down and can’t get back up he will win the fight on a foul and lose the fifty grand he bet against himself. It seems that the newcomer has bet against himself too. So, by dint of superhuman will he stays on his feet until the next round, and he hits the newcomer in the groin with a punch that nobody could withstand, and the newcomer goes down, and wins the fight on a foul. They raise his hand and carry him out on a stretcher, and the ex-champion pockets the fifty grand he bet against himself. I think Hemingway is saying that all the glory of being a champion is good, but the real winner is the guy who walks out with the money and his penis undamaged.

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