Questions about joining the military

I have a dangerous lack of masculinity and I need to become a man and do something with my life. I would like to either join the Coast Guard, Army or Marines. But I’ve been involuntarily committed three times and have been diagnosed with SchizoAffective Disorder, ADHD, Anxiety, OCD and Autism. I know I won’t be able to get in if I tell the truth, but is there some way that I can get someone to hide those records to get in? With psychiatry being the political tool that it is, usually rights restrictions come along with your disorder. I feel as though it’s a right for me to enlist, just how it should be my right to vote and bear arms. Though sadly none of those things Im allowed to legally have.

Any tips on how I can get in?

If you go in you might have to serve in a combat zone. You need to be prepared for that. You might find yourself wanting to get out, which you would probably be able to do with your mental health history. As for what the rules are about joining the military with a pre-existing health problem, I don’t know. I imagine that they wouldn’t want to take you under those conditions.

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You could join one of the sides in the Ukrainian conflict. Both sides are desperate for soldiers and some of Putin’s “volunteers” are convicts. Some of those groups in the Middle East would probably take you in with your mental health issues being an “asset” although there’s a low chance of survival. If you wanted to be patriotic you could join the fight against ISIS or the Taliban where the terrorists put bombs on children and dogs to infiltrate into your base. I presume you are from the US and we are fighting in both places. Or maybe you could find another way to feel manly.

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Hope for a radical cure whilst your still within the age limits for service!

If the military finds out you hid medical information to get in, you could go to military prison, at least, here in the US.

If you want to feel manly, try volunteering for Habitat for Humanity or a similar organization. There is nothing more manly than building houses with your bare hands. You would be helping people, it is a much lower stress environment, and you wouldn’t die.

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Real men don’t worry about what other men think of them, for starters. If you like arranging flowers or baking quiche, go for it. I’m a dude and I’m also the local 4-H Food Project leader because I like to cook (including quiche). Just be yourself. No need to start lying to people and putting yourself into legal jeopardy or situations where you can get killed over worries about not being enough of a DudeBro.

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I was in the army over thirty years ago. I don’t remember if they had any questions about pre-existing medical conditions before you actually joined the army. The army life does have its hardships, even if you’re not in a combat zone. In Iraq the temperature gets to 129 degrees F. It’s worse just sitting around under such conditions. Boredom is always much worse when conditions are bad. Some of the units in the first desert storm war didn’t see any combat, but they had to sit around under unbearable conditions for the length of the war. They spent weeks and weeks in 129 F weather sitting around in canvas tents. Believe me, it is much easier to endure such condition when you are doing things - going out on patrol, doing forced marches, and other military business. One time when I was in the army in Texas we went to the field for a month. It rained stupendously hard every day we were in the field - something rare for Texas. I was the chemical warfare specialist for an infantry company, and they didn’t want to be bothered by me. So I ended up sitting around all day, looking for a dry place to park myself, the ground all around turned into a sea of mud by military vehicles. The boredom was excruciating. Some of the troops in our company went on this twelve mile rapid march, and they came back saying, "You guys don’t know what we have just done. We covered twelve miles carrying our military equipment, running about half the time."
I’d been on that rapid march when I was with another unit in Germany. Believe me, it is much easier to do that kind of thing than to sit around in unbearable conditions. Imagine sitting around in 129 F weather in Iraq. I think soldiers learn to adapt to such things, and it quits being unbearable after what seems like an eternity, but it still isn’t easy. Then, when you’re in garrison, they’re always thinking of ways to make work. We did a lot of painting while I was in the army, because some idiot NCO didn’t fancy the color of the walls in our room. There is always something they want you to do that you don’t feel like doing. Also, we went to the field a lot when I was in Germany during winter. It got pretty cold - about 5 degrees F. Spending a lot of time under those conditions can be trying. And what you do in the peace time army is nothing like what you have to do in the war time army. It seemed like everyone had their area of contention with the army - something they didn’t want the army to tell them how to do. I was in the army a long time ago, and it was a different army then. Moral was bad. A lot of people started wanting out not long after they got in. I don’t know. Maybe you’re the type of individual who does well under these circumstances, but I have to warn you - there is a lot of drudgery in the army. If you can take it, fine. But it can be pretty unbearable if your morale starts to slip.

oh please no. :pensive:

Hiding your illness to get into the military seems like a very bad idea. How would you get treatment for your illness if you’re hiding your it?

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You don’t need to join the military to be manly.

What does that even mean though?

Going to war or being close to it is a no-no for mental health.

There are more things to do that would make you feel manly.

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Its not a fun job…its not going to make you a man…just think a normie goes in and comes out mind ■■■■■■…how do you think a sz comes out…

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That would be fraudulent enlistment. The military is a high stress environment. You wouldn’t be able to hide it for long

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You jest surely? This guy could find other ways to be a man

Dude , you should not go into the military , way too stressful…

Dude are you @damon who used to post here or the german dude @dando… and something else, forget. Anyways are you?

No, Dandolo is now Eiskalt.

Oh right , maybe @Damon so

I talked to one guy who joined the military - I think the army - so it would “make him mean against his will”. It didn’t work out for him. I think he got an early discharge. He was a good guy, though. Appreciated by everyone. I’m not sure it would have been an improvement for the army to “make him mean against his will”.

The list of things to do to be a man varies with different guys but here are a few things that don’t necessarily involve risking being badly wounded or killed:

  1. hiking
  2. fishing
  3. biking
  4. watching sports
  5. playing cards
  6. shooting the bull
    There are other ones that involve some risks like addiction, disease, causing pregnancy or possibly 2 or all 3 of those things but it’s up to you to decide whether to engage in those behaviors or not.

I can’t see any way that you can hide your psychiatric history from the military. They’re pretty thorough in their screening process. Even if by some miracle you got in initially, I think they would find out eventually and I think the penalty for falsifying your records or withholding pertinent information might actually be a felony and it could send you to prison.

There might be desk jobs in the military that you could handle but I can’t see anybody with schizophrenia being able to handle combat. The stress would be to much. In fact, the army as a whole is a very stressful job. There’s a lot of moving around in the military. One week you could be sitting at a computer quietly doing your job, and the next week they would expect you to hop a plane and fly across the country to a different assignment.

I think the symptoms of schizophrenia pretty much preclude you from being in the military. The military is a very rigid organization, there’s no room for questionable behavior. You can’t be in the military and wake up one day, and if your symptoms are bothering you, you can’t decide not to show up for breakfast or your duty that day.

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