My mind is constantly worried. Can the zyprexa help that?

So it’s the apocalypse in my head… I only worry in fact… We have big problems though, but I wish I’d feel some positivity in my mind, some joy, some fun…
I find, that I am even physically dull… I am constantly worried and I feel so bad around problems, that it’s painful… In fact, around tragedies and problems I freeze, I don’t act. But I still think about these problems and it’s too much :smirk:
I find, that my life instincts are even affected by this… My will to live is weak, no matter that I don’t want to kill myself still… But yeah, I experience even bad conscience that I freeze around problems. I don’t live, cause the joy from the life is way too deeply buried in me, it blocks all my positive feelings and thoughts…
We’re you like that too? I wonder if the zyprexa can kick in with some positivity…
Maybe it’s hard in my case, cause I am not delusional, I worry about real problems… But maybe my brain is really physiologically dumbed, idk… My pdoc says though, that it’s psychological, but I really feel, that some part of my thinking just doesn’t work :pensive:
So can my ap kick in in some positivity in my head or no?

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What meds are you taking?

Don’t worry because a lot of people with schizophrenia feel the same.

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You don’t have positive symptoms?
Only negatives?
How zyprexa will help with that?

I have paranoia though @Om_Sadasiva … A strong one too I think. My pdoc used to say, that I can’t think, because I have paranoid thoughts instead of normal ones…
I worry too, but I ignore which is paranoia, which one are worries…

I am on zyprexa 10 mgs. Yeah, dear Green, I am scared till hell and I feel alone. I worry so much, that I get stiffed per moments, unable to move…
Maybe my mind needs to expand beyond this fear, maybe the med will work with time?
My pdoc used to say, that maybe I’ll need years to get our of the paranoia… idk why years… maybe cause I am sick since kid and I started the aps at the age of 27… I tried 12 other aps, none of them didn’t relieve totally the paranoia. I calmed down a bit mostly on the zyprexa, but it’s still apocalyptic in my head :unamused:
The aps are good for worries?

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Today is exactly 2 months since I quit olanzapine(zyprexa) and I am so happy to be off that vile drug. I was psychotic even on 15mg. For it to work on me at its best I needed to be on 40mg. So you may have to go on a much higher dose to fix your problems if you are anything like me.

My only remaining withdrawal effect from quitting olanzapine is insomnia. I am now on Lurasidone and it works way better for me.

Have you tried other medications besides zyprexa?

I tried way too many aps too before the zyprexa, one doc said it to me. I tried 12 other aps for ten years, we did only that… I tried ads too, they all increase my paranoia…
My doc ended up saying, that we should stop switching aps, cause this wasn’t helping…
I have thinking deficits as well, am a bit psychopathic in my feelings, now I wait the zyprexa to help. I tried aps for ten years, they’ve been only lost years…

Olanzapine has significantly decreased my paranoia.

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OK, good. Did it work fast? Were you worrying before all the time as me until even to be unable to act?
I am a severe case of sz, maybe I need more time on that meds than others…
My current pdoc thinks, that I am quite passive mostly because of my paranoia, not only because of the negatives…

Staying on the same AP that isn’t working won’t help either.

I think there are like 30-40 different APs, if you’ve only tried 10 then there are a lot more options to choose from.

I’ve only tried 4 APs. Some work, some don’t, some have bad side effects.

You may have treatment resistant schizophrenia unfortunately.

My doc finds, that the zyprexa works… But for the full stability, she said to pay efforts…
I have way too many symptoms, I can’t take meds for all of them. If we work on one of them, the others get bad etc…
I won’t try more than 12 aps, I had enough… it’s already a lot 12 aps, plus some of them look alike…
My sz is just severe, that’s all. My fear was very, very deep. My doc thinks, that I’ll recover with the zyprexa even more but in years in my case.
She finds, that this ap works best on me. But I still am symptomatic, that’s all.

If your mind is worried, then so is your stomach.

You are what you eat, so be careful with what you put in your body !

Hope this helps.

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The only antipsychotic that helped with worries was Abilify for me, but that comes with other side effects I have to manage.

I haven’t taken Abilify for years. I now take risperidone but I don’t think it helps with worrying like Abilify did.

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I am dealing badly that I am still unwell, headspark. But my pdoc states, that he zyprexa already helped me the best from all other meds. She doesn’t allow anymore to try other aps, cause we did that…
I am such a severe sz, that my pdoc already is glad, that I am not crippled in bed anymore all day long. She says, that my zyprexa works…
But she also says, that maybe I’ll need years to get free from the paranoia…
I guess, there are szs like me. I know many szs who were never helped by the meds…
Anyway, I try to swallow already the fact, that I still risk to be in pain a bit…
I can be a borderline too btw, I carry the madness since too long, this contributes to other stuff…

Well I wish you all the best.

Like I said earlier, with zyprexa I needed 40mg to be effective. You stated you are only on 10mg. The manufacturer of zyprexa says the maximum dose is 20mg. So you could talk to your doctor about increasing your dosage if he wants to keep you on zyprexa, and since it is helping in some ways increasing to 15mg or 20mg or even higher may help even more. Just be prepared for side effects from higher dosages.

At 40 mg I weighed 240lbs, I developed diabetes, my cholesterol, blood sugar and triglyceride levels were all sky high and I was at risk for an early death from bad physical health. That is why I am so glad to be off that drug now.

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Oh, I put already 30 kilos on it, I’ve lost ten of them the last year, cause I have a conversion disorder as well and I can’t swallow now harder food…
Yeah, zyprexa is tough, but since doable in my case. I think, that I am subscribed to this med though, I was very bad on the others.
My pdoc was saying, that I live in hell. So yeap, for her it’s a progress already, that I got up from the bed, with lessened fears.
But they are still very strong my fears, my conversion (body) disorder is from them too… I still get paralyzed by paranoia every afternoon for a few, sitting on the couch and just smoking…

OK, so clarify me on my worries pls… Is it common for sz? I worry all day long I find and I even don’t realize it well… I just know, that my mind races on worries, cause sometimes it gets better for a second and I just see, that this was worrying…
My thinking was affected by this. You don’t think “normally” when you are hooked up on worries…
It’s a very tough symptom here, cause my worries are partly realistic…
Can I improve with time and my exposure to the life, which I do since an year? I don’t think that the zyprexa will help more, I take it since 5 years…
Right now I am dumb and numb though…
We’re you like this too, did you get better with time? The zyprexa should be a good thing against worries, no? :pensive:
I wonder lately too what bad the zyprexa does to me, besides the good… but my pdoc said, that I’ll worsen even more without it…
It’s a pain my worried mind, without a genuine thinking in it tbh…My ex pdoc said, that I am a chronical sz now…
I wonder if my pain will ease too one day. I now observe it, I now try to let it go, but it hurts a lot still per moments, even physically…

When it came to my thought habits and patterns Cognitive Behavioural Therapy (CBT) really helped me understand, recognize and change them for the better. You can’t always control what happens to you but you can control how you think about it and how you react to it…

I was on Zyprexa for almost 2 decades, at a very high doses it helped my positive symptoms but that is about it.

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Thank you for the answer :relaxed: few respond… cause I am too sick probably, no one wants dramas…
But if my worries are quite realistic, maybe thats why the zyprexa didn’t relieve them all?
Yeah, I guess I don’t feel fine still, cause I developed thinking deficits and this is a negative I think yeah…
I have one very good friend now, who guides me. It helps me a bit , it’s almost like a cbt , yeah…
For the rest, did you had some health problems because of the zyprexa? Me, I put 20 kilos on it and I can’t go lower now still, despite my efforts. Some other stuff too, like a higher cholesterol and a bit of higher liver enzymes… but I don’t care about that, I’ve tried 12 other aps, which were even a less help or either with maddening me even more side effects… For instance, I was totally crazy on seroquel, all agitated, couldn’t calm for a second etc etc…
Yeah, its probably my negatives now… but I am determined to work on them with efforts, my docs ended up to state a bit desperately, that I need efforts too… Yeah, tell this to a sz, who can’t get up from the couch every afternoon but OK. I have hope still now :slightly_smiling_face: I fight my despair symptom too since an year…
I’d wish, that it wasn’t still so painful per moments, but maybe i made too many mistakes before lol, idk…

You’re welcome!

I’ve taken 3 courses on CBT, there is quite a bit too it, but in the end it was worth it. It was something that interested me and I did it on my own time, it wasn’t a school thing so I wasn’t rushed or stressed. There are CBT courses on the Internet. I bought one from udemy,com

Yes, I weighed 240lbs on zyprexa (About 110 kg) and had really bad life threatening side effects, my cholesterol and triglycerides were really high, I developed diabetes and had A1Cs of 8-9 which is bad and could’ve led to severe complications, my physical health was really bad on zyprexa. They put my on Lipitor for my cholesterol but that caused my liver enzymes to go high, so they switched me to crestor and my liver enzymes are now normal.

I quit zyprexa about 3 months ago. My blood work is now perfect and I am a healthy weight so I am no longer in danger.

I take 60mg of Lurasidone now, far better for me.

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