Modern music I actually like... trigger warning

I hate to sound like a cliche, but I’m not a huge fan of modern music. With that being said, I have found a band that I absolutely love. They are a band called badflower. Their song ghost is powerful. It deserves a massive trigger warning because it is about suicide, but I think it’s a good song because it talks about suicide. As a society we still arent okay with saying “I’m suicidal” and we ostracize those who do want to talk about it. I think that songs like ghost give perspective of someone who is suicidal, and I could definitely relate to the song. It helped me to feel like I’m not alone. People will say that it is glorifying suicide, but I would argue the opposite. I think it talks about the gritty and scary truth of what it’s like to be suicidal. I think that’s a conversation that needs to be started.

What do you think? Is it dangerous to talk about suicide the way they do in the song, or is it helpful?

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Here’s another good song by Badflower:

I think mental illness should be approached carefully in music.

IMO, if a song mentions mental illness; it should be catchy and not sad.

Like this;

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I get what you’re saying, at least I think I do. Do you mean that music talking about mental health should inspire good feelings to combat the issue?

I agree and disagree, because I want something I can relate to, and I dont mean any offense when I say this bit I couldnt really relate to the song you posted. I’m not saying the song was bad by any means.

I think bebe rexha’s I’m a mess is annoying. At least the music video and its mental hospital setting is. Which sucks because that song is so darn catchy.

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I guess so. I’m with you in a sense.

Music helps with mental illness but its triggering in a sense. Listening to sad songs can make things worse in a way. Not to say we shouldn’t listen to sad music.

This is a good thread.

That song I posted is just catchy.

Music is art. Art should make you feel. Unfortunately some people just won’t feel a healthy reponse no matter how careful you are about your message because that’s just how things are. Me, I like my music to approach things in the same way tsunami approaches a coastline: Hit it like a muthaf$C#.

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I think music about mental health can have any tone.

I make songs and sometimes they get super dark. so dark that I have to stop. But they help.

They help me express my feelings in a healthy, Safe and constructive way. And listening to other music about mental health also helps me.

So if it was all happy all the time itd seem so fake. Cause mental health isn’t always ok. And I wouldn’t have a good outlet

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hey Have_Hope. That’s awesome you’ve found music that moves you & makes you feel connected. I love alternative music (now called “indie music”) and it took me a year of Meetups to find a gig buddy who I now go to gigs with, who likes indie music too & is happy to see the headliners at 11pm even though we’re both in our 40’s and that’s a very late start to the night for us!! I’m lucky to live in a SA Australian city with a vibrant, live music scene.

I don’t feel suicidal much now that I’m middle-aged but the most important thing is to find music that moves you, that you feel connected with & that distracts you from your psychotic/schizophrenic symptoms…at least that’s what I find. My main symptom is much rage… I love Mitski, Alex Lahey and Lucy Dacus. Those chicks rock out & can express anguish & anger in ways I never will be able to.

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Yeah, @Flutterby, my two main genres are classic hard rock and indie, mostly contemporary. I think for me, the main selling point for indie is the lyrics, more than any other type of music I’ve listened to. The lyrics for the most part aren’t too sad or angry, but aren’t too happy either. They’re really insightful. So, in my opinion, indie really is smart music! :heart:

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you sound pretty insightful yourself mate. What are you listening to, have you got any lyrics you’d like to share with us @anon96671092?

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Happy to oblige, @Flutterby, although it took a bit of thinking to come up with something with real gristle. It’s the 2nd verse of a song called “Cold” by an English indie post-punk revivalist band called Editors. It goes like this:

You were waiting for elation
Like it would fall out of the sky
*Maybe time’s the greatest healer
But, baby everything will die

Kind of brutal, maybe, but so true, I believe. I think that through much of my mental health journey, I’ve made the mistake of wanting someone else to save me from myself. And that could be anyone:
a parent, a friend, a psychiatrist or some other type of mental health professional, or even a potential love interest. But, no one can really do that for you. What happened to turn things around in the period of 2006-2008, was I didn’t just have to lighten up enough, but I had to realize my role in the situation and get out of my own way. And, buying my 1st Xbox 360 console helped as well. But, my narcissistic “friend” most likely put me back in a really bad place again. However, especially with recent events and how well I’ve been handling myself for about the last 2 or 3 weeks, I’m no longer questioning my worth as a person.

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that is mighty gristley @anon96671092. I tend to subsist on child-like hope but I can see your point of you, it’s very sobering & if it motivates you that’s awesome. You sound like you’ve really got it together. Well done. Yeah I know what you mean about responsibility, it took me a lot of ugly therapy to realise my rage & well being was no-one’s responsibility but mine. I’m glad you’ve been kicking goals with recent stresses & have a firm handle on your value - of course you’re awesome!

My self worth is a little shaky today, just got rejected by a guy I asked out. I have to work 2 long shifts in 2 different libraries (I usually just do 1 short shift in 1 library) so it’s gonna be weird. Feel like a strange torpedo indeed…

I get tongue-tied
every time I try
to tell you what I think is right
cause I think it’s wrong when you sit around
looking like a toy in the lost and found.
I am telling you something you might’ve heard before and forgot on the spot

You’re a strange torpedo on the loose,
strange torpedo on the loose
strange torpedo on the loose
and I’ll play the fool and I’ll play the fool

Lucy Dacus STrange Torpedo.

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How’s it going @anon96671092? What are you listening to?

I’m enjoying Marlon Williams, he’s the most gorgeous man on earth with the voice of an angel. and just got Julia Jacklin’s new album Crushing.

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I don’t think I’ve heard of those two artists, maybe only vaguely, @Flutterby . I do like the new Angel Olsen album (just started to get into her) and I think I really the new Wilco album. Have you ever heard of City and Colour? They just released a new album, too. One thing I’ve noticed about this year, 2019, is that I haven’t been listening to a lot of new albums that came out the current year. It hasn’t been several years since it’s happened.

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Saying yes to happiness means leaving behind things that stress you out.

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