Mentally ill Having Children n not working

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My father told me a few years ago he does not think I should ever have children.

I was very upset because I actually think I could make a great mother.

A year later I had ovarian cancer and my ovaries were removed.

My mum and grandmother also said I should never have children and that they would not let me have children.

My father and mother both agreed on that dispute that they disagree on many other things.

My father thinks you should not have children if you can not financially support and pay for them.

Such as if you are on centrelink you should not be permitted to have children.

Nazi like thinking in a way.

If I had a rich man pay my way n be father would that be ok in their opinion???

I like to think I have a son who survived and who I gave to another woman to raise.
A miracle and great technology keeping a tiny darling alive.

My father may not of believed I deserve a lot but my mum thinks that’s because he dislikes himself and I remind him of himself cause we may be emotionally similar.
We both cried to cartoons et

My other parent who raised me seems to think I deserve loads of goodness as she has given me a place to live and a car to drive and taken care of me and been there for me emotionally etc aswell even when I isolated n was awful she still loved me and wished me well.

Do you think schizophrenics should be aloud to have children?

Or does that depend on if they work or not?

But even if they work they could get sick and nolonger be able to work…

Also I was screaming and slapping my own face to make them leave my body and my baby dog was upset to see me that way …
What if my child saw me like that …

I even wonder if my dad had mentally I’ll problems which he did but he kept working and his eyes used to constantly blink which is a side effect of medication.
He has been on medication.

He stopped blinking n is the happiest he has ever been and he retired about a couple years ago but saved fohis money so he does not need government pension.
He is independent financially.

What if only one of the parents is mentally ill???

I saw mentally ill parents that were noticeably mentally ill but were still great parents.

It’s a bit Nazi like that only some should be permitted to have children.

What is your opinion?

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I think it all depends on the person. It would be irresponsible and mean to intentionally try to have a kid when you’re unable to care for it. You would be forcing an innocent person into immense suffering. This doesn’t necessarily mean you have to be working, but you have to have a liveable amount of money coming from somewhere legal. And, most importantly, you have to be emotionally capable of putting someone else first, even on your bad days. You have to know how to process your frustration without taking it out on someone else. You have to be able to find reliable transportation to doctor appointments and day care and such. You have to always make sure your kids are clean, fed, clothed, learning things, and you have to know how to show affection.

Not all people are capable of this, whether they’re schizophrenic or not. That’s why I think everybody should wait to have kids until they know for sure they’re ready. It isn’t a kid’s fault if their parents aren’t capable of meeting their needs, but they are the ones who will suffer.

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A question often asked is “How many children should people on benefits/welfare be allowed to have?” At what point does the State’s responsibility to provide end ?

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I’m 59 years old, and I never had kids. Maybe I missed out on some of the best experiences in life, but I also avoided a ton of responsibility. Alcoholism and schizophrenia kept me from acquiring the means to support children. Children of alcoholics probably have it worse than children of schizophrenics. Alcoholism is a catastrophe that is unique. It’s usually very hard on children.

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My mom and brother and even my psychologist keep telling me to consider having kids. I don’t think I could handle schizophrenia and a job and kids. I can tell my dad kind of wants me to but he doesn’t pressure me about it all he just says he understands and that if I change my mind in the future that that is ok. I don’t think it would be fair to be pregnant while on all these Meds and I’m not going off my Meds cuz if I do I’ll lose any potential job I might get and go through psychosis again. I’ve thought about adopting but I doubt that the government will let me because I have both depression and schizophrenia. Part of me is kind of sad about it but I just couldn’t handle the pressure and responsibility.

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Well shouldnt fertility be part of the agenda while improving mental health. Like if one or both have mental illness and are possibly going to have children it would be advisable that the children be healthy. What if you had alot of children… My great grandmother had 13 kids… So… It would be pretty dumb of the health system to pass that mental illness on!

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If a person doesn’t have the means of taking care of a child, they shouldn’t have one. It’s got nothing to do with sz, it’s all about being a responsible person.

I love my life for the most part, sz and all, but I will never have kids unless I suddenly have a huge influx of money that I don’t currently have. I have just enough money to cover my own needs right now, I can’t afford to get involved with a woman and take care of a kid.

What kills me is so many of us would be fantastic parents, but it really is for the best that most of us choose not to have kids until later on in the cycle.

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It may depend on situations but I still seem to believe in having children and that there is a way.

I believe I would have made a great mum .

Neglect can be a problem too.

There are quiet a lot of disabled parents in Sweden where I used to live anyway.

Many of the parents lived in a special house that shared a huge living room and kitchen and 24/7 nursing staff .
They had their own apartments but if they needed extra support or where feeling down etc they could just walk down stairs to the joint area and talk to other disabled or staff.

Some of them got jobs.
These jobs the government actually pays the employees money for employing them.

I worked at a place and the government paid that cafe for employing me but it was not a normal employment perhaps I was seen as a non desirable employee…

They all seemed to appreciate and do something or those that did nothing might contribute by just being there…
Being seen and loved…

What about say the royal family…

If they had a disabled child.
Born that way or became that way.

Would it be entitled to a title…

Would they hide it or abort/kill it …

They would have the means to take care of it though.

I have also seen some shocker drug addict parents .
It can get pretty bad.

My dad loved that movie about a boy with Hugh Grant.

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Yes it would be irresponsible , if you can’t pay for it , or a partner that could not pay for it. Your parents would be left to clean that mess up…

Then there is the ability to care for a child, are you able, capable or stable enough to care for a child?

Then there are problems around heridatry, tbh , if you sort out the other 2 issues, this one is the least difficult…

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Marilyn Monroe’s mother was schizophrenic, and Marilyn was happiest with her. There is a lot of dishonesty involved in todays economics, so I don’t think it should stop you from having a child.

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One of the parents of the children must earn income or generate revenue in order to support the kid(s) and spouse. The non-income earning parent’s responsibility is to look after the child(ren). I don’t think being mentally ill is a factor but I may be wrong as each mentally ill person varies in functioning.

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The “Nazi” term is being used a lot…which is pretty typical…

My opinion is I shouldn’t have to pay for it and society shouldn’t have to pay for it. Too many people on the planet anyways. I think you should have the freedom to have a child, whether you’re mentally ill or not. But to make laws, exceptions, etc. is wrong. Plus, like many other people said, what about the child? Having children is a big responsibility. I don’t think I would ever want children. It takes at least 250k to raise a child, not including college. I wouldn’t have a child unless I had a million bucks in the bank. I don’t work.

Furthermore, a lot of normal people mess raising children up. My parents don’t have mental illness, except my dad who has OCD and anger issues. My mom is overly religious, which messed me up. My parents divorced when I was 5.

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I knew a woman who had psychosis while pregnant.

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Having psychosis doesn’t necessarily mean you can’t be a parent. We have plenty of great parents here. But they know how to keep their kids as a priority, even during their psychosis.

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I don’t think I want Children. I don’t think much of this world anymore, and haven’t done for some time. It’s no place for a child.

My second reason that is if my illness is genetic, I wouldn’t want to pass that on to someone else - even if there is only a small chance, it would destroy me to see a child of my own go through it.

This is not a jibe at those who do, this is just my personal choice.

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population would drop to 0 , them folks have no idea, how cold it is to rase 1 kid. wellanugh family of 14 kids. I rased 1 and 2 step kids on my check. it sucked. and so do they. bit me…Zen

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Humans are genetically adapted through evolution to want to have children. That doesn’t mean it is a smart idea.

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I guess having a child or children depends on one’s perspective of the world. Optimists see that having a child in this world as a wonderful thing whereas pessimists see that having a child in this world would be a burden. William & Kate are expecting their 3rd child.

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It’s not a straightforward as that. I would never see a child of my own as a burden. My lived experience is what I base my opinion on and my parents failed to protect me in the environment I grew up in, and it would really worry me having a child go through the same thing.

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They actually already have their third child.

I do not read the news but watch headlines every now and then.

I just read a woman attacked people with a axe because a man she wanted to date is already taken.
She blamed mental illness for such a tantrum .

I do not know if she was delusional or psychotic but sounds like someone throwing a tantrum when they don’t get what they want and then blaming their bad behaviour on mental illness so they do not get punished or have to be responsible…

My man chats with a girl who is obsessed with him.

I am so disappointed in him because by doing so he leads her on and puts me in danger (her wanting to kill me and or do anything to get me out of her way so she can have him )and possibly even himself (if she can’t have him no one should).

I said this to him but he didn’t care and I do not want to nag him because she stalks his online workplace and he has to be professional and chat back to her on this forum station he volunteers at.

I do not want to have a huge fight not nag him but I am so disappointed in him for it.

It gives him a ego kick to have fans hitting on him and wanting him …

Ego kick that could be very dangerous and he is putting us in danger.

But he will not listen to me and I don’t want to nag him over n over.

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