Male vs female

Do you believe we are very different?

And if you believe so, where do you believe these differences come from?

I mean not physical things now (because they can be seen with a naked eye)

I just read about prison statistics. 90-98 percent of prison population are male,
((Depends on an country))

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Women can multi-task.
I think it’s a difference

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There are definite differences overall.
Sometimes the differences are subtle

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We definitely have different plumbing.

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I think a lot of things are social constructs

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Then I am not a woman. :smiley: @Om_Sadasiva

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I think there are biological differences that make us different in rather important ways.

I think there’s a lot of cultural and social learned behaviour around it. That can change.

I think there’s also people who for all sorts of reasons don’t fit the stereotypes or boxes of male or female neatly. And that too is fine.

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I can tell you, being in a prison - that the women are the most conning. Constantly writing letters to punters to get money sent in and all round con artists.

Its not unusual for a woman in prison to have several men on their books.

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This post is really gping to offend some people. Cos they want to hear ā€œtheir opinionā€ coming from ā€œyour lipsā€

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As a nonbinary person there’s not really much of a difference between men and women.

However the social standards definitely are. ā€œMen aren’t supposed to be emotionalā€ ā€œwomen are too emotionalā€ and other asinine stuff like that. It’s honestly ā– ā– ā– ā– ā– ā– ā– ā–  that a select few humans decided that that’s what it should be.

At our cores we’re all objectively the same in the sense that we don’t fit neatly into any box.

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I agree with @mangojuice , I think most of the differences are kind of socio-political.

Of course men and women have different types of hormones, so that can come into play at times.

William S. Burroughs said men and women are different species with different wills and purposes. But he was a junkie and peadophile so take that with a grain of salt. :salt:

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Yes I agree……I think we are different. We are also similar……we experience success, emotions ect.

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Psychologically? Nah not really that different.

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Hey @noise, I hope I didn’t and don’t accidently offend you.

If I say there’s biological differences…I mean things like pregnancy, childbirth and caring for my son when he was a baby, impacted me in all sorts of different ways than his father. Physically, but also socially and emotionally. Or I have my periods, which have all sorts of hormonal impacts, and therefore psychological impacts.

Not that women are always emotional, and men always rational. Or such ā– ā– ā– ā– ā– ā– ā– ā– .

I don’t think anyone neatly fits all boxes…but I was mostly referring to my own childhood.

  • All the other girls in my class liked dolls. I hated them. I liked books and climbing trees and wild boys to play with.
  • Other girls wanted to be mum or teacher. I wanted to be the pope. Or a fighter pilot. Or living with a woman. Nobody even told me something like LBGT existed.
  • Other girls auditioned for Mary in the Christmas play. I auditioned for Herod. I decided my teacher was an idiot, because he said girls did not look like Herod. And I couldn’t have the role. I thought: 8 year old Dutch boys don’t look like Herod either. What’s the problem? Don’t whine. Give me costume, and we’ll both look equally much like Herod.
  • Other girls in my uni class went to the aerobic class. I went alpine climbing.

I believe most of these are socially learned behaviours. But for some reason unknown to me. The other girls in my class, conformed to the stereotypical behaviour that was expected a lot better than I did. :smiley: Both is fine. But that’s what I meant to say.

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Men and women have developed to perform certain tasks. Women are care givers to children while men are the ā€œhunter gatherers.ā€

I only partly agree. I believe there is some hard-wiring. E.g. around child-rearing. Friends who transitioned (or experimented illegally with hormones without a doc) described changes in their personality and behaviour with testosterone or estrogen.

But I think it is not that black-and-white. I visited natural societies. They had divisions in tasks. But the men were involved in child-rearing too. And the women in physically heavy work like work on the land, or gathering, or housebuilding. And it varied somewhat between societies what tasks were deemed ā€œfeminineā€ and ā€œmasculineā€.

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I was mainly referring to ā€œcave men times.ā€ Since then it has been changing. Men can be care givers and women can be hunter gatherers. We are evolving to something different.

The societies I spoke about, were tribal societies. Living in the old ways, with very little contact to the modern world. I have also read that a lot of the cave-men-theories are myth. And the women had many different roles than just child-rearing. Even hunting or fighting. They supposedly found prehistoric things too…like graves of young women surrounded by tools to hunt big game.

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Male and female is a natural selection there is a reason behind it, why was it not like single gender and mutiple.

Years and years of organic research done with in our body. We think brain is the main factor.

And about prison all are now getting equal opportunity these days so it will be soon that in prison too you will find equal gender.IMO

Also female have better self talk and socializing,
So they dont get in trouble.

You sould read men are from mars and women are from Venus its a great book to start out with.

Men are like cave men if there is an issue they get isolated in a cave.

Where as women talk with each other.

There is a bigger picture in all this evolution and its for a purpose. Something is constantly learning and getting prepared for some thing.
Not sure what.

But we just keep evolving. Is it a beauty.

Its in our blood.

If humanity needs to survive it needs to keep evolving.

I think we are very different and thats beautiful. And that we are made for eachother.
But i also reckon that what we ā€˜think’ or ā€˜Feel’ about it doesnt really mean much. I dont beleive its a subjective topic or needs any abstraction.