What is the deal with feminism? I dont quite understand it

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So I don’t quite get it. Is it just about equality, like equal rights and pay or is it more like saying that women are better than men?

I am all about equality, hell I might want to marry a guy one day, being bisexual and all. I don’t think women are better than men. That’s not equality.

I studied historical waves of feminism in school and they were radically different. I am confused about what people mean today when they say they are feminist.

I have a friend who is a girl and she says she hates feminism and that women are actually more advantaged than men. I sort of didn’t care but thought it was an odd thing to say. I have other friends who are very feminist and say that there is a war on women and post all of this crap about women dressing provocatively doesn’t mean they want attention, which I think is bull, because I wear fitted t-shirts and am a bodybuilder and I do it to look intimidating to other men and attractive to women and gays, with lots of success. When I see a girl showing a lot of skin, I assume they are being vain like I am.

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Women are very aware of their attractive power on men. I guess if they don’t want to be bothered they don’t want to be bothered, but sometimes it’s hard not to notice. I’m mildly sympathetic to the feminists, but I think women who go around saying they were raped because someone said something they didn’t like are ridiculous.

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I am for equal rights - there was a point in our history where women were seen as not equal.
They could not vote and were treated as second class citizens.
In today’s world take the big power players - Politics, Big business, Lawyers, Physicians - Yes its still a Man’s world.
Women’s rights have come a long way - but there is room for a lot of improvement

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IMO we’re all equal because whether we’re female, male, black, white, straight, gay, rich, poor, we all have the equal ability to live in the moment. we can equally savor the moment. We have the present time. Unless you’re sick of course, then it’s tough.

That’s just my take on it all…we all have the ability to be happy the same way based on demographics because we are all equally in our own head.

So I don’t understand what the fuss is about. Women play to their abilities and men play to theirs. Women take advantage of their looks, so they want to have employment that help them account for their weaknesses too, it doesn’t make sense. Stop complaining about the little things, and think about the whole picture more.

i took a women studies course and my teacher said that she wish men were extinct and there was a giant sperm bank because that’s all men are useful for. She doesn’t realize the psycho-sociological implications of that.

Women even the ones that are CEO’s are already at an advantage…lowered expectations because of their sex, even if they don’t make as much money as their counterpart CEO’s.

Women just simply don’t have the same minds as men. Not saying they’re stupider or smarter, they’re just different. And I think society has had it somewhat right for a while.

I think as a man it’s somewhat unfair that I’m not a male model…but if I were to go start a movement about it I would be considered a wimp or just unimportant. Women have it damn good and many realize that, even if they don’t say it consciously. But nothing equals the present moment which we are all equal in. /rant

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I think that in Nordic countries women are quite equal, Norway had a female Prime Minister and Finland had a female President. But I still like to have some beautiful women as sex objects which may be objected by feminists. I think that in some parts of the US there is a lot of equality. For example my former US spouse became a Vice President of one company, but I know also a case when a PhD computer scientist was fired from Microsoft after he had called some woman as ‘gorgeous’.

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There are women in powerful positions in this world such as the IMF Chairman who became the Chairman after an older man was fired due to his sexual conduct in New York years ago.

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You are aware all humans are first female in the womb, right?

Proper feminism includes men and women who value the elimination of superior/inferior biases, including speaking out against a radical feminist state.

As a feminist, I support many women and LGBTs who are comfortable with themselves sensually. Others may understand the expression as suggestive–but not so if you understand self-security. There is a difference between those who express vanity or the social cue of easy from those who are comfortable with their sensuality. Take Nikka Costa for instance. This album cover does not suggest Nikka is vain or coming off as suggestive. Rather the cover image expresses Nikka’s personal sense of sensuality and self-security.

I am a feminist who denounces violence against women, men, LGBTs, children, nature and animals. As such a feminist, I oppose the feminist state and their dubious VAWA. Equal to the Women’s Party of America when it comes to expectations, I opposed the VAWA for these reasons:

These “programs” don’t seem to address the violence against women. Instead, the money is spent on programs that occur AFTER women have been violently attacked and appear to do nothing to the perpetrator. Sure, the “Violence Against Women Act,” sounds good, but how about if we actually just institute Violence Against Women LAWS? Specifically, make violent crime based on gender bias a federal hate crime and institute tougher sentences and stiffer punishments. - See more at: Forget the VAWA where’s the Violence Against Women Laws? – Me and My 1000 Girlfriends

Believe as a feminist, I will always campaign to disenthrall from dubious feminists. In Linda Kelly’s article, dubious feminists broke the rules to push their agenda and neglected to account for the protection of men from domestic abuse.

DISABUSING THE DEFINITION OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE: HOW
WOMEN BATTER MEN AND THE ROLE OF THE FEMINIST STATE

http://diginole.lib.fsu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1595&context=fsulr

Both articles support an end to violence against women, men and children. These articles are written by feminists and of crucial importance, inform readers how the feminist state has failed in attempts to eliminate violence.

As a feminist, I do not cower to the narcissistic feminist state.

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I thought in the past that Carly Fiorina was beautiful, she was the CEO of HP, when I lived in my auto in Miami I even invited her to the Bed with me, the Bed is an upscale restaurant in Miami Beach, too bad she did not arrive LOL :smile:

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IMO men and women who hate feminism are close-minded or unaware of the trials that women have faced in order to secure their own human rights. Women have never been very equal to men and even if the disparities aren’t apparent, it will always be a human rights issue just like civil rights for homosexuals and lesbians. Similar to the black power movement, women are not a minority and while the civil rights movement is taught as a movement primarily for blacks, it was also a movement for woman’s rights and minorities rights. Feminism is both an intellectual commitment and a political movement that seeks justice for women and the end of sexism in all forms.

“However, there are many different kinds of feminism. Feminists
disagree about what sexism consists in, and what exactly ought to be
done about it; they disagree about what it means to be a woman or a
man and what social and political implications gender has or should
have. Nonetheless, motivated by the quest for social justice,
feminist inquiry provides a wide range of perspectives on social,
cultural, economic, and political phenomena. Important topics for
feminist theory and politics include: the body, class and work,
disability, the family, globalization, human rights, popular culture,
race and racism, reproduction, science, the self, sex work, human
trafficking, and sexuality. Extended discussion of these topics is
included in the sub-entries to feminism in this encyclopedia.”

http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/feminism-topics/

http://feminist.org/

I’m proud to call myself a feminist. You don’t have to be an activist to agree with the value that both men and women should be treated as equals.

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I don’t know much about the feminist movement. I guess the same with unions or other organizations and movements, some seem to take it a little further then the original intention.

I had a teacher in college who claimed to be a feminist. She didn’t want a man opening doors for her etc. To me this is taking it to far. The movement, I thought, started for equality. Male or female doing the same job should get paid the same dollar amount and if a female is capable of doing to ‘male’ job then let her, same with males being capable of doing ‘female’ jobs. One should be paid according to skill etc not according to gender.

I’m for equality. Male or female if you are behind me I will hold the door for you and I would like the same consideration. We are equal not one better then the other.

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I think feminism is an over reaction to this. Feminists have gained ground for me. but I wouldn’t want to spend my life as one.

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Women deserve the same basic human rights as men, but both men and women have their own niche in society.

Men tend to be intimidating and assertive which is fitting for the Top-Tier jobs (CEO etc). Women tend to be more thoughtful, emotional, and ‘go along with things’. Obviously this is a generalization as men and women can develop the same skills and traits.

I’ve noticed that, despite what feminism would suggest, a lot of women uphold their stereotypes. Most women I know are the shop-til-ya-drop, overly sensitive, talkative type who enjoy popular culture; and they’re okay with that. There are, obviously, women who are not all these things, but the stereotype fits the vast majority.

A lot of guys I know fit the male stereotype as well. Blunt, competitive, violent ideology (fist fights, shoot em’ up games, etc), and stubborn are common traits. Personally I fit more than a few.

Estrogen and Testosterone have a major role in these traits so they are very much natural.

Anyway, my main point is that most feminists don’t seem to fight for the majority of women. They really seem to be fighting for themselves. Most women stop at human rights (voting, employment, pretty much all rights), where it seems feminists go much further. They would rather all female roles be the same as male roles so there isn’t any kind of specialization by gender.

Where women should be able to fill any role/job they want, there will always be jobs that women are better at than men (like teaching, women have the patience and instinct to deal with children). And roles men are better at than women (such as military).

One interesting point is that I don’t see feminists fighting to be required to sign up for the draft.

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I have quite a deep loathing for feminazi nonsense. I grew up a feminist and was raised by strong women and I watched as their worlds came crashing down around them because people require BALANCE, not equality, balance. Woman needs man and man needs woman, but, for completely different reasons. Women do not belong in positions of power. They are much too emotional. I don’t think women can do what men do, nor do I believe that men can do what women do… Are there exceptions? Absolutely. Are they a majority? No.

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basically there are lots of different types of feminist thoughts and theory.

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come off it a samples a woman can do anything a man can do accept provide sperm for an egg.

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dandy, who cares about them?

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not if your a radical feminist or other extreme types of feminist theory.

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if you believe men and women have equal worth and rights as men, believe mens and women’s work is equal, deserving of equal pay, and believe that they need proportionate freedom from violence and discrimination, you are a feminist

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there are many many types of feminist theory.

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I’m for equality for women, but do think that they deserve some special recognition and support in their role as child-bearers. Having a child shouldn’t mean having to give up a career. Society needs to make sure supports are in place for professional women who want to resume their careers after giving birth.

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