Let's talk family

I have mixed feelings about my family. I am only in contact with my mother’s brother (my maternal uncle) out of both sides of my family. His kids (my cousins) dislike me. His wife (my aunt) and his bother (other uncle) all want nothing to do with me. My dad’s family completely disowned me. How did we get here? It’s not a simple answer.

As to my maternal family, I have mostly felt negative about them. They’re stuffy and overarching. But I did my fair share to alienate them. When I was 13, in 1995, I lived with my uncle - the one I’m in contact with now. My dad couldn’t (and didn’t want to) handle me, so my uncle said he’d take joint custody of me with my dad. After about 2 months of living there, we got into a fight, and I pulled a large kitchen knife. They wrestled me to the floor, and I was admitted to the state hospital for 10 months shortly thereafter. They were all justifiably upset, and never came to visit, other than to tell me they saw me as dangerous and were shipping me back to my dad. I haven’t spoken to my cousins since that night, 21 years ago. Honestly, it is not really a big deal for me because they didn’t care much for me when I was a child. They were older by 4 and 7 years or something, and relentlessly picked on me.

About 3 years ago, I researched my uncle online, and got his number. I called him out of the blue, and he was quite shocked to hear from me. Since then, our relationship has blossomed as I’m trying to be an adult and develop a closeness with him. He’s kind of a hard person to read, but I think he’s being genuine. We talk once a week like clockwork, and he’s communicating with me despite pressure from my aunt and cousins.

My other uncle is quite passive, and generally aloof and unhelpful. I never cared for him, never saw him much, and have no vested interest in him.

That’s the long and short of my mother’s side of the family. Let me talk a bit about my paternal family.

I always liked my paternal family a lot more. They were fun and loving, and I genuinely liked being around them when we went up to NYC. The fact that I haven’t spoken to ANY of them since 2001 is a loss for me. They were well aware of the acrimony between my dad and I. My grandmother in particular was very sweet with me. When my dad committed suicide in December, 2001, it was the end of the line. I called my grandma and told her my dad was dead. She shrieked at me, saying, “It’s your fault! You killed him!” I hung up and had the most conflicting feelings I’ve ever had. Part of me agreed, thinking that yes, if I had not gotten sick, he would likely still be alive. Then there was anger at her for placing blame for her son’s suicide on his troubled son. Also felt empathy for her, knowing the worst thing a parent can endure is the loss of a child. And around and around my head went, mostly blaming myself, perhaps because it was the easiest thing to do.

I also called my dad’s other two brothers. One brushed me off, and the other promised to send pictures but never did. He was always kind of an ass anyway. Some time ago, I tried reaching out to my paternal family on Facebook not having any contact information, and got rebuked.

In short, I have practically no blood family in my life, just an uncle. These days I rely on my relationship with my wife and the friends I have to fulfill the needs a family addresses. It can be very frustrating because it’s not the same. Let’s just say that if I die tomorrow, my funeral would be poorly attended.

What about you folks? Feel free to say as much as you’re comfortable with. Any similar stories, or can anyone relate/empathize?

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I can’t really empathasize, that sucks about losing contact with most of your family. :pensive: I live with my mom, dad, and brother most of the time, but right now I’m visiting my sister. I just hungout with my sister and cousin yesterday, and had a good time. I saw my maternal family relatives growing up on some of the holidays with my mom’s one sister. With my mother’s other sister only saw her and her family when I was a child. For my dad’s family they only visited once when we were little and then I never saw them again, except for my dad’s brother. When I got to college my dad’s brother’s family reached out to email us, but I was developing schizophrenia at the time, so I never reached back. I get along with all the relatives that do talk to me, but I don’t talk much, i usually just listen to someone else talking. The only family I really had problems with was my mom. I could tell that the relatives thought that i was a bad kid because of what she said about me over the phone. They now feel sorry for me because it came out later that she had schizophrenia and that made life difficult for her and everyone else.

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My mother’s side of the family is just a headache to deal with. My father’s side I didn’t even consider getting into contact with over the internet until my early 20s because my dad was never around before he died so I never really considered the concept of any of them as existing. Most of them have bipolar disorder and most of the rest have some form of schizophrenia or schizoaffective disorder. It’s kind of a pain in the ass how often they read into my behavior too much where they’re all used to being paranoid of each other and tend to have a love hate relationship.

I decided to cut off all contact with one of my aunts on that side after she tried to blackmail me with what little not important information she knows about me because I was mad at her so I have nothing to say to her ever if I can’t even trust her that much.

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Very similar:

my mother died by her own actions during what was most likely a psychotic break. She might have committed suicide on purpose, but we don’t know. Either way, my maternal grandmother blamed me overtly and out loud. Within months I was disowned by the whole maternal side.

@anon40540444, you are much more thoughtful and reflective than I am; my brain could barely get behind typing the basic facts let alone how it felt.

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@anon40540444

I am so sorry to hear that things fell apart with your family. I’m amazed you survived and have been doing as well as you have been. Your a very strong person

Families can cause a lot of sorrow.

I have my two sisters and my step-dad and step-mom. That’s the only family I am in touch with. There are no bad feelings between me and my extended family, we grew up with a few uncles, aunts and cousins, but we just drifted apart and we live in different states.

But my moms immeidiate side of the family were not very nice. Both her parents were rather cruel and mean and her only sister was the same. But her Uncle (my uncle too) on my moms side was actually a nice person and we saw a lot of him as I was a kid and my cousins were neat little kids when I was a kid and they even lived with us for almost a month when I was little and my uncle lost his job.

But when my mom died almost three months ago, this Uncle got in touch with us after 30 years to offer his condolences. I don’t see us meeting again. My moms cousin was at the funeral and we might see her again. She’s in her late eighties.

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Indeed. I married my wife, but I did not marry her family. She doesn’t always understand that.

Pixel.

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My mom was estranged from her father (my grandfather) for many years. He was very mean and cruel to her as she grew up so she cut contact with him around 1970 or so. In 1980 he was getting old and as he faced his own mortality he probably was having regrets about how he treated his family and he got in touch with my mom to mend fences and and more likely just to assage his own guilty conscience.

Coincidentily it was the year I was diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia. He wanted to meet with my two sisters but not me. When my mom told him I had a mental illness his only comment was , 'Well, two out of three ain’t bad" referring to me and my two healthy sisters. My mom and my two sisters cut him out and refused to meet with him.

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I’m sorry your grandmother reacted that way, grief and anger mixed that way, it just sucks…

Well, my family is strange. I have a bunch of cousins from my moms side, I get along with pretty much all of them but we don’t see each other much. I’m the one trying to get everyone in the same room, but there’s always something that happens and no one goes. Everyone is kind of strange so the sz is not that much of an issue. My uncle, my moms brother, is a categorical ■■■■■■■. He stole money from my grandfather before he died, he sent hateful emails to my mom saying he wished all terrible things would happen to her… just a plain asshôle. His sons and I get along really well, but I’m affraid they’re too different from me, I’m more of a hippie you know… Different mindsets. But are really supportive about the sz. We sometimes hang out when they’re in Lisbon, go to the beach or just for a walk.

On my dads side I have a bunch of cousins too. My dad was a self destructive alcoholic and he didn’t have that many friends and basically everyone gave up on him, his best friend was his cousin that helped him (and me, to get me hospitalized) when he most needed it. He still feels guilt for not helping him more around the time he died. I have two sisters from my dad, not my mom, and we get along well, although we don’t see each other often. I think they resent me a bit for being the one closest to my father, but tthose are issues that no longer matter in my opinion. (I thought I could save my father from the booze, go figure, so I hanged with him quite often) I have a niece and two nephews, they’re great kids. We hang once a year around christmas time. One of my cousins, the one I grew up with, has major depression with psychotic features, so we have a special bond. This year for christmas both of us reunited that whole part of the family and it was really cool.

I’m trying to get my family to be more supportive towards each other, so we don’t see each other only in funerals.

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I read all these books. My family became visible to me. I haven’t been “back to the house” (in a psychological sense) in many years now, even though I see some of my family members several times a year.

Anonymous: Adult Children of Alcoholics: Alcoholic / Dysfunctional Families, Torrance, CA: ACA World Service Office, 2006.

Black, C.: It Will Never Happen to Me: Children of Alcoholics as Youngsters-Adolescents-Adults, New York: Ballentine, 1981, 1987.

Woititz, J. G.: Adult Children of Alcoholics, Pompano Beach. FL: Health Communications, 1983.

Miller, A.: For Your Own Good: Hidden Cruelty in Child Rearing and the Roots of Violence, London: Farrar, Straus & Giroux, 1979, 1983.

Miller, A.: Prisoners of Childhood / The Drama of the Gifted Child, New York: Basic Books, 1979, 1996.

Miller, A.: Thou Shalt Not Be Aware: Society’s Betrayal of the Child, London: Farrar, Straus & Giroux, 1981, 1984, 1998.

Perry, B.; Szalavitz, M.: The Boy Who was Raised as a Dog…, New York: Basic Books, 2007.

Forward, S.: Toxic Parents: Overcoming their Hurtful Legacy and Reclaiming Your Life, New York: Bantam Books, 1989.

Forward, S.: Emotional Blackmail: When the People in Your Life Use Fear, Obligation and Guilt to Manipulate You, New York: HarperCollins, 1997.

Brown, N.: Children of the Self-Absorbed: A Grown-Up’s Guide to Getting Over Narcissistic Parents, 2nd. Ed., Oakland, CA: New Harbinger, 2008.

Gibson, L.: Adult Children of Emotionally Immature Parents: How to Heal from Distant, Rejecting, or Self-Involved Parents, Oakland, CA: New Harbinger, 2015

Golomb, E.: Trapped in the Mirror: Adult Children of Narcissists in Their Struggle for Self, New York: William Morrow, 1992.

Payson, E.: The Wizard of Oz and other Narcissists: Coping with One-Way Relationships in Work, Love and Family, Royal Oak, MI: Julian Day, 2002.

Bateson, G., Jackson, D., Haley, J.; et al: Perceval’s Narrative: A Patient’s Account of his Psychosis, Palo Alto, CA: Stanford University Press, 1961.

Esterson, A.: The Leaves of Spring: Schizophrenia, Family and Sacrifice, London: Tavistock, 1972.

Henry, J.: Pathways to Madness, New York: Random House, 1965.

Jackson, D. (ed.): The Etiology of Schizophrenia: Genetics / Physiology / Psychology / Sociology, London: Basic Books, 1960.

Jackson, D.: Myths of Madness: New Facts for Old Fallacies, New York: Macmillan & Co., 1964.

Laing, R. D.; Esterson, A.: Sanity, Madness and the Family, London: Tavistock, 1964.

Lidz, T.: The Origin and Treatment of Schizophrenic Disorders, New York: Basic Books, 1973.

Lidz, T.; Fleck, S., Cornelison, A.: Schizophrenia and the Family, 2nd Ed.; New York: International Universities Press, 1985.

Scharff, J. S.: Foundations of Object Relations Therapy, London: Jason Aaronson, 1989.

And doing these psychotherapies (mostly with workbooks, btw) has made it pretty easy to stay “out of the house.”

DBT – http://behavioraltech.org/resources/whatisdbt.cfm
MBSR – http://www.mindfullivingprograms.com/whatMBSR.php
MBCT - http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22340145
ACT – https://contextualscience.org/act
10 StEP – http://pairadocks.blogspot.com/2015/04/the-10-steps-of-emotion-processing.html
MBBT – https://www.newharbinger.com/blog/introduction-mind-body-bridging-i-system
SEPT – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somatic_Experiencing
SMPT – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sensorimotor_psychotherapy

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My Family is… a little odd. My mom has schizophrenia and my dad has bipolar. My mom’s side of the family is who I have the most contact with. My cousins are nice. They don’t know I have schizophrenia though. My great grandmother is the sweetest. I love her. My aunt, I don’t really see eye to eye with. My grandmother, I don’t like her because she is to vain and stuff. My mindset and her mindset is too different. And it can be over small stuff. My brother and I are vegans and she just went on and on about how the vegan life style is not for us. She just a … My sister and I get along nice but its really my immediate family that know about my schizophrenia not none of my outside family.

My maternal family are all right wing people, so I can’t talk politics with them. My paternal family is helpful, both sides are in their ways. My aunt who is a social worker encouraged me to get Vocational Rehabilitation to pay for school. I have sibling who are 11, so I haven’t talked about SZ with them other than, “I’ll be on medication for the rest of my life.”

I have more of a problem with my mom’s friend who is a racist bigot or a bigot racist (I can’t remember which).

If I’m a “family” friend, I’m the guilt trip giving cat lady aunt.