I was misdiagnosed with schizophrenia and I was taking clozapine
about 1 years and when I stoped taking this medicament too quickly, I
felt into psychosis for about 7 months and no medication could helped
me. My psychosis has ended without using any meds.
Now I don’t use any
meds from half a year and I feel quite good, with no any mental problem
but this psychosis made me much less intelligent and I have problems
with talking.
I’m just dumb. I’m using special diet supplementation (oil
fish, rhodiola extract, zinc, grape seed extract, lions mane) now and I
believe that can help me regain my intellectual potential.
Is recovery possible? Do you know any method that could help me regain myself?
I had a three year psychosis from 2007-2010…I know what you mean about lingering cognitive problems. I have been trying to retrain my brain by reading (even though I don’t remember half of what I read). playing Suduko or chess. And there is a website that has brain training games. Luminosity.com
Socially I am stunted. my short term memory is shot. I struggle to recall words. or people’s names.
I have improved however in the four years since my breakdown. Keep using your brain…Push yourself and I believe you will recover.
First of all, thank you for your replies, it rised my hope for recovery and its a crucial thing to do this. Ill keep my daily struggle because it`s worth to fight for yourself.
May be someone knows any supplements that could help me to achieve this goal?
Anything is possible, and you seem to be doing really well considering everything. If you feel less intelligent due to focus, memorization, or concentration you may have had ADHD all along w/anxiety (having problems talking). I’m not a doctor so don’t take that as a diagnosis, but tell your doctor what you’ve just shared. You’ve crossed out SZ already, maybe another diagnosis holds the keys to solving your problem.
I was psychotic for two years straight. Now I work and take online college classes. I failed two courses but I took one over again and got a B+. For the most part I get pretty good grades. 33 years before this i was in a long term hospital and when I took a math class inside I literally could not do simple equations like 14+19.
Once again, thank you for your replies, it really raises my motivation to wok on myself and search solutions.
I don`t have cognitive deficits like concentration or memorization defficiency, it just my intellectual potential is hardly decreased and I have a feeling that it is a progressive reduction. But if 77nick77 made such improvements in his mental potential, may be I have a chance to achieve this also…
By sharing your experiences with me, you really help me to struggle this hard situation.
Any others suggestions, how can I accelerate my recovery?
I can understand a bit of what you are experiencing. It’s obvious to me that it is NOT a lack of intelligence. Possibly more likely a lack of organization in the brain. If that makes sense? I get what you are going through, I think… It was not a cure or a solution for me, but I found that a lack of organization in my environment made the disorganization in my head worse. Perhaps try to simplify as much as possible. If you have something (ie: a statue on the shelf) it serves no purpose other than decoration and to the average Joe, it’s just a decoration, but to me, it was unnecessary stimulation.
The worst thing for me is clutter. If the average person walked into a messy, cluttered room, it would annoy them, but to us… it’s catastrophic! An outsider would think that we were just witnessing a traumatic event. ie: confusion, incoherence, panic.
I am not sure if you can relate to this, but if you can relate, try to simplify your external environment as much as possible, and remove unnecessary stimuli.
Thanks Jilian. Perhaps like you said, this is not a lack of intelligence but, I hope so, temporary intellectual decline. I think, human must enrich his environment. Its crucial to regain normal brain activity because you must stimulate your brain to increase his performance. Recovery must take a time and youve to be patient and do right things to achieve this goal. Our shared experiences in daily struggling with our impairments should motivate us to keep going because were not alone and its worth to fight for ourselves. However, I wrote this topic also to grab some informations about methods that could help in my recovery process that, I believe, is still possible.
I apologize, and in hindsight the statue was a bad example. I live in a small apartment and it’s difficult to stay organized. I guess what I was trying to say was in my personal experience, I have found that after I took a week to reorganize and de clutter, it helped me. I am not implying that you have clutter at all… just sharing what helped me.
Jilian, dont worry, I didnt interpret you words in bad way, I just wanted to point out that stimulation is very important for brain development so may be for regeneration too. But as you mentioned, clutter may have negative influence on mind and when we organize our personal enviroment we definetly acitvate our brains. I think, any organized activity affects positively our wonderful organ, I mean our brain
Thanks Karl, faith is what I really need to manage with this hard conditions.
Anyone else wants to share his/her experiences with us or suggest me a method to iprove my recovery?
How you manage with this? How long you fight and what caused your problems? May be we can help each other in special way beacuse we experience same cause of our suffering… I`ve some findings about recovery methods that I could share with you, mate.
Snowy, I read that recovery process may even take couple of years but I believe theres a metdhod to accelarate this and help obtain desired goal little quicker. May be on page, that Ive already posted, we could find clues which can help achieve our freedom. Do you have any special methods for recovery? I eat lion`s mane, fish oil, canola oil, turmeric, zinc, rhodiola extract, grape seed extract, alpha lipoic acid and want to check acetyl l carnitine.
P.S. I thought that I posted my topic in recovery section.
What I can tell you is that a surprising number of people diagnosed do recover but are not the same as when they started the journey. I mean natural remission- in some cases, the illness just fades. It happens usually later in life, John Nash cleared up when he was well beyond middle age and is fine today.
Psychosis can wipe your memory (it damaged mine to an extent, not too severe) and recalling parts of episodes can be difficult. I don’t know why. I do know that I forget little things easily like taking out the trash, little things that are trivial. I don’t forget important things, though.
What you can do is see a neurologist and get an fMRI and see if you are actually schizophrenic or not. I dont have the money to get scanned but I will down the road. I am quite certain that I have chronic schizophrenia, my doctors act like there is no doubt. One of them doubted it and proposed that I might have anxiety with psychotic features, but he saw me on medication and has changed his mind after watching me have episodes and take a hefty handful of tranquilizers and still be kicking.
Yes, you can recover naturally, but it is uncommon. Most people need medication for the rest of their lives.
Try reading and watching online lectures and do your best to learn something that interests you, that can help you
and you will probably be surprised at what you can do.
But I have an important question- which subtype of schizophrenia were you diagnosed with? The “intellectual potential” you mentioned differs greatly between subtypes, I am sorry to say. Paranoid schizophrenics can amaze you at how bright they can be, while disorganized often doesn’t correlate with an above average IQ, just as a general observation, there is a disorganized on here who is obviously intelligent and he is some sort of outlier in terms of intelligence. Not all paranoid scz are bright, it is just observed that paranoid schizophrenia is correlated with above average intelligence.
Are you really not experiencing any symptoms? If so, and this has been happening for more than a few days off meds, you might just have some neurological problem and not schizophrenia, that is a possibility, or you could be the lucky ones who just get better.
I was misdiagnosed with schizoaffective disoreders and when I felt in psychosis after too fast meds off, they diagnosed me as paranoid. But as Ive mentioned before, Im not schizophrenic for sure. Ive never experienced tipical schizophrenia symptoms (delusions, hallucinations, anhedonia etc.) while I threw back clozapine too quickly. I think I had neurological problems that, I supose, Ive already solved because I dont have problems with associative thinking which have been wrongly diagnosed as schizophrenia. Myafter meds off psychosisened one year ago and I dont have any bad symptoms besides that strange dementia. I dont have cognitive problems, just my intellectual potential is decreased so hardly that I feel like Im retard. I was quite intelligent guy and I was on philosphical doctoral studies and now I`ve problems with simple talks… May be I should use theraphy for former drugs abusers with brain problems?
Once again, sorry for my awful english but it`s not my native language. I hope you understand my scribble.
Edit:
I read that psychosis kills brain cells very stronly, so may be I should look up something to reverse brain cells death?
Before his death, father of ADHD admitted it was a fictitious disease
If you or someone you know has a child that has been diagnosed with attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD), chances are the child is actually just fine. At least this is what the “father” of ADHD, Leon Eisenberg, would presumably say if he were still alive. On his death bed, this psychiatrist and autism pioneer admitted that ADHD is essentially a “fictitious disease,” which means that millions of young children today are being needlessly prescribed severe mind-altering drugs that will set them up for a life of drug addiction and failure.
I agree w/the over acceptance and treatment of the disease in which the medications provided are strong acting stimulants, that will increase drug addiction in some users. I think they are prone to addiction anyways. It should be regulated at a higher degree, but I don’t think the disease is created so our youth can get addicted to drugs for the rest of their life and fail as a person. Awareness of the treatment should gain some steam.
Heart disease is the number one killer, and is preventable in the majority of cases. ADD treatment isn’t creating millions of life long junkies. It’s helping students obtain degrees and keep jobs, who would probably end up lost otherwise. If you take drugs you don’t need, you’re going to end up being an addict anyways.
Anything that artificially messes with your neurotransmitters is asking for harm.
The side-effects (especially from long-term use) the stimulants have are serious enough to doubt that their (pharm co. and psychrsts) main motive is to help rather than to indulge their ever-growing pockets.
Relapse from schiz is pretty high when someone stops taking clozapine abruptly. Of all the ap’s this is especially true of clozapine. If you need to go on it again , next time you wish to go on it and off again make sure you taper. Or if you need to come off it again have another AP in place and then taper off that one in order to prevent relapse
