Are you guys able to correlate low IQ and schizophrenia???
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are you saying i is dumb? 
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no i’m not saying that at all. 
sorry i didn’t know what you meant, it was a joke though bc i didn’t think you meant that anyway, sorry lol
i think having sz may not make you smarter at first but once you learn or if you learn how to handle it then you can get smarter on meds and things maybe
I think lower than normal, not because we’re naturally dumber but psychosis lowers your iq slightly
Some people may environmentally develop schizophrenia because they’re not bright and had no future so they use schizophrenia as a coping mechanism while others are too smart for their own good like John Nash and @Azley so they develop sz as a coping mechanism too.
So it balances out
Also I had one more point but I forget
never heard of sz being used as a coping mechanism before
no. often times people with high IQ can have schizophrenia. Normally a persons environment will trigger it. For example sexual attack as a child coupled with bad living environment earily in life can lead to this sickness. this is just one example
i wasn’t the brightest kid in the class, i was poor but i wasn’t the brightest
it is a society thing though i think, it must be, i don’t think its just genetics
John Nash won a Nobel and he was sz. But I have heard lots of the sz are rather above the medium in IQ. I think that Schizos in general are usually more sensitive and that is the biggest sign of us being smarter that the people in avarage.
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It’s a poor unintended coping mechanism but when the world seems to harsh it could be one…seems better to enter a world of fantasy and delusion then deal with reality…which causes chaos and u hear voices and stuff.
My other point was Neanderthals aren’t capable of schizophrenia so in a way it’s an evolutionary mutation that only humans can achieve so it makes me think we could be smarter typically
bruhhhhhhhhhhhh i think i do that in a sense
its an unintended illness in my opinion, no-one wants mental illness, no-one wants to enter a world of fantasy and delusion, its by accident that we get this disease mostly i think
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True but you’re missing my point, it’s NOT a choice because we only use 10% of our brain but the 90% subconscious could will us to wanting to do anything to get away from reality, without thinking about the consequences of it all.
In the eastern world schizophrenics are considered shamans …why couldn’t I be born in the Amazon lol
No one wants to be a drug addict, but hey it happens. Another way of coping
we get away from reality because we cant cope with reality from what i know
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I’ve seen a few cases where people don’t really seem to have sz and don’t even describe a sz experience but are still diagnosed sz seemingly out of sympathy because the pdoc don’t want to drop the bomb or even attempt to pick apart the real issues… which is more a therapists job any ways… but the meds are effective in providing comfort and stability to those who are otherwise erratic or unstable over time just due to dissatisfaction with the world or people in general…
and damn it @turningthepage it was hell of a time to receive that statement for me lol… I nearly well up and winced in sadness/beauty… as it really is painful to be appreciated at times for me for really strange reasons I barely understand… but I can only thank you for thinking so highly of me. You’re a good dude. I’m glad your life is moving forward so well… there are very few folks on here who make progress as rapidly as you have.
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I used to be bright. Think I am about normal now post onset of illness.
Most definitely not. However, I do attribute a lower extent of intellect with the medicines we have to take.
yeah just sucks when the dependency becomes chemical and the escape is nearly impossible… because psychologically they are drawn to the escape of the experience and in a state of psychological dependency on escape is the worst time to go through physical suffering… the combination is just a dead end loop of distant wanting and almost total preoccupation inside until both the physical and psychological dependencies are healed over as the body readjusts… then what’s left is the better memories of the experience the people in their life that are still involved in that activity… and the rotten ass side of the world that glorifies drug use and the pushers who need their clients…
agh fucken a man … humanity is sick in general so sick I can’t even blame the ignorant and conservatives from turning a blind eye to all of it… Because these folk continue to do it to themselves instead of being constructive and fighting to build an existence for themselves that is satisfying and stable because they are afraid to fight for what’s genuine… as the world will tell you those things are rare and never really work out…
man I’ve been stuck on similar topics to all this for the last few days… the girl I love is totally balls deep in all that ■■■■… well I mean actually 90% of the time she’s not partaking but when she does she cannonballs in.
painful… really painful… that live fast and die young crowd… fucken sucks to care about them… but the only chance they got is if people really do… takes a ■■■■load of patience and acceptance and understanding to hang around until they ■■■■themselves up so bad that they get scared and actually need a break… and then you have to be prepared to let them come to their senses and grow up a bit… which they don’t want to do… no one wants to grow up… adults are lame and boring and seem highly dissatisfied… but there is a middle path… it’s just being around people you really enjoy who are clean and not enabling and have the humor and activity in their lives to keep things exciting and or intellectually fulfilling…
I know she’s going to pull out of this ■■■■in like 10 fuggen years… and… well gotta just put off voicing my opinion too much until then… just give her a taste of what the experience is like without the drugs… just let her and I get along however we do when she is sober…
I mean I have my own issue with alcoholism… except it’s legal and I don’t have to associate with crappy human beings to get my fix… they even call me sir when I go to my local liquor store… it’s really the people you surround yourself with… the people you want to seem cool too and the dumbassery that seeps in when you are trying to please them… lol uhhh all this crap I really want to say to her but can’t…
maybe someday though…
If you ever get sick of alcohol I highly recommend asking your pdoc about naltrexone
God it has helped me and makes me feel better
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