How do you believe in god?

I had no choice the voices were just to real for me not believe in god. but they never said they were god only they could read my mind and manipulate me into thinking that they had power over other peoples actions.

Believing in a God, and sticking to that belief, requires the choice of accepting less than truth, sticking to that less than truth, and then defining it as being truth. In other words, it requires the act of insanity. After all, you only need to practice a belief if you are located at a distance from the truth, and thus you are located within the zone of less than truth.

However, to say that in your mind the probability of there being a God is high ( or low, or 50/50, etc.), is a sane choice that is based upon the information that “you” have acquired. Here sanity is practiced such that if you think that there is an 80% chance of there being a God, you did not then proceed to define 80% as 100%, thus you did not choose to say that less than truth is truth. You chose to be sane.

The proper use of a belief is to eventually drop that belief.

If I believe that if I avoid a car that is heading toward me at a high speed, that I will not possibly be killed, it would be pretty stupid of me to stick to that belief. Instead, I would move away from that belief by moving on over to the truth of which the belief speaks of, and thus in turn I would truly get the heck out of the way of the cars path of motion.

Simply having accepted the belief alone, is obviously not enough, it is not sane. No matter how hard one could try, as they stood there and strongly supported that belief, that would not prevent the car from striking the person since the belief alone does not connect one with the truth.

that just assumes that belief in god is illogical or untrue. there are, apart from personal experience, reasons for why a god exists

I believe in god but im actually ashamed to admit considering all the people that do admit it.

I use to give granola bars to homeless people because when they went on sale at target they were like 10 cents each or less and because I felt really bad about their situation and was at a loss for words so id say ‘god bless you’.

That was until someone said "oh you Christian are ya?..like those priests on the news?..you screw children?

I dont say god bless you anymore because I don’t want to be mistaken for one of ‘those’ people.

when I was considering suicide because the sz got out of control I once went to a church (Christian)looking for comfort but because I wasn’t the same race as all the people there I wasn’t welcome and they said so.

I went to another church where the me minister regularaly has sex with the married women in his congregation, in fact he has a apartment specifically for that right behind the church.

For these reasons im not a ‘practicing’ Christian …but one of the only ‘real’ ive ever seen in my entire life.

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Yeah man there is all fuckupedness across all walks of life.

too big to see, small to see god is that cames to me. peace dudes

Interesting quip on cognitivism. I guess I might add, “Why even have the belief in the first place?” IF a belief is no more than the retention of a “policy” that generalized a one-time, cause-and-effect relationship recalled from the past.

I now accept that I will do this, but what I need to do in addition is to question the policy’s vailidity in the present (similar but never truly identical) circumstance.

Is the glass half empty? Or is the glass half full?

Today its bone dry.

According to whom?

I don’t know I’m not a doctor.

What intro said is sooo correct.

A’belief’ ceasing being a belief when it becomes a way of life.

The main problem with most Christians is that they believe on sunday and the rest of the week they are C*Fing degenerates the other 6 days of the week.

Well; who’s mind came up with the notion that the glass was “bone dry.”

If you were speaking generally about the collective glass of humanity and not my personal glass then I spoke to quickly.

On the topic of God though, you could just ask him. He’s known for prompt responses.

I wasn’t. (15, ■■■■■■■ 15)

Well then it was obviously my call.

And that’s the point. (Not to make you “wrong,” because you are only thinking the way you were taught to think; so was I.) I saw the glass half empty for years. UNCONSCIOUSLY. I didn’t know I was doing that. But I was. & when I found out, I saw that there was another way to interpret reality… another way to actually see what is instead of what my conditioned mind projects.

notmoses: Do not try and fill the glass. That’s impossible. Instead… only try to realize the truth.
pixel: What truth?
notmoses: There is no glass.
pixel: There is no glass?
notmoses: Then you’ll see, that it is not the glass that becomes full, it is only yourself.

Heeheehee.

Pixel.

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Hah you’re still just jerking off buddy :sunglasses:

But uhh yeah. Thanks for the concern.

The battle is accepting reality. I used to live in a dream. Now I know I have no real relevance or influence or importance or anything. Its tough man, I don’t even know where those delusions started. All the while hallucinations plagued every real life interaction I have. It’s just ■■■■■■. It’s kind of like when you wreck a car or get a DUI, but there is no paying this off or getting a new car.

Full of exactly what however? (Mine was full of You Know What for years.)