Educational changes my generation vs this generation

Continuing the discussion from US test scores remain below pre-COVID, performance gap widens:

Far more help and support for difficulties and/or disabilities nowadays.There was no such thing as 2e when I was in school.Schools use educational psychologists far more nowadays. Huge increase in ‘How to do well on x test’ guides now compared to then. School age, college age students, far more likely nowadays to have a mini meltdown if scoring < 90% on a test.

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I was let down by schools

They punished me a lot

Now it’s clear it was not a priority then

This was late 90’s early 2000’s

Even at university in c2011 they were very slow to get help for me

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They’re not mini-meltdowns. The kids will demand continued re-writes until they get above 90 or to just be awarded a higher grade. When my wife says no their parents start calling and threatening. Then they move onto the principal. In some cases they move onto the superintendent. Students are so bad now that many teachers (the good ones) want out of the profession entirely.

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Skibbity sigma :thinking:

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They have problems here to retaining teachers

Same with nurses and police etc

U can blame the nicotine vapes for that. I’m not even joking.

:smoking:

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It’s a combination of things. The government policy during covid was that no kid would be failed no matter what and that went on for two years. Now kids and their parents think this is normal and they feel they deserve top grades just for showing up. Never mind that they didn’t do the report on the assigned novel because they didn’t like it (my wife assigned Life of Pi and one kid wrote a one paragraph report on an Archie comic instead and then had her parents complain about the zero). It’s partly the parents. It’s partly societal expectations. Educational policy is a wreck. And I’m sure drugs play a part.

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I didn’t realise it was that bad!

Idk. This stuff wasn’t talked about when I was in school. You just went to school. Some kids did the work, some didn’t, but no one seemed to give a ■■■■. I think we need to go back to not giving a ■■■■.

Oh, that’s my wife’s life. She’s an online teacher. Five month course starts in September. Ends in January. First week of January a kid finally logs on for the first time, realizes they can’t get even a fraction of the work done before the course is over, and starts asking what they can do to improve their grade so they can pass. I can tell you she doesn’t give a ■■■■ about those ones. They’re told to show up when they’re supposed to and do the work they’re supposed to the next time they take the course.

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