How do you deal with Negative symptons
some seen to cope better with them then others?
- KETOGENIC DIET
- SUPPELEMENT? WHICH ONE
- LOWER DOSE?
- ADDED ANTI DEPRESSIVUM
- FASTING?
Thanks.
I use supplements.
There is a article called “7 Important Nutrients Depleted by Psychiatric Drugs” on a page called “optimal living dynamics” I don’t think I am allowed to post the link.
That’s a good place to start out to learn about useful supplements. A lot of the supplements mentioned are B vitamins. So taking a B complex would be good.
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Here’s what I do:
Sleep Hygiene:
Get to sleep at similar times and wake up at similar times following similar rituals. This is paramount and of the greatest importance as it’s the main variable that gives almost instant results. More notably if this isn’t locked in you will have no ways to assess if you are making progress with your symptoms because the daily variability will be too high.
Rules:
Just like with sleep, having rules about how to structure your day, breaking them only in favor of new rules if you’ve built too much fatigue on the old ones helps. If you decide that you have to eat everyday at a set hour for example you will be forced to lift your ass from bed and get to the kitchen, slowly building up that muscle of doing something because you decided you ought to. Not because you want to, but because you leave yourself no other choice. Doing stuff against your will is how you build up your will. You should focus on stuff that has an inertia to leverage your ought to though, you don’t want your dragging of yourself to last for more than a couple consecutive minutes tops. I get that doing it longer actually starts to feel kind of satisfying but you aren’t trying to finish a maraton, you are trying to make that no longer a maraton, understand the difference.
Qualia enhancement:
This is actually the most impactful but kind of a long term prospect because, at least for me, progress is slow as hell. If everything looks dull and mundane that’s no place to live. It slowly grinds away at your will to do anything, just like when the sky is gray. Well through introspection you can learn to better graft your realization onto the environment. Make colors more vibrant, shapes more intriguing so on and so forth, all while increasing the level of realism of the world from your perspective. Doing this you can build up many synesthesias, some are easier than others to build, some will spring up on their own as you go about aligning stuff and not the weird kind that make no sense, ones that harmonize with actual information creating sort of a mystical experience, although you’ll be building it one brick at a time so no shock and awe, but still it’s more enjoyable to live after you’ve personalized your qualias and it will increase massively your connection with the environment, making it more comfortable and stimulating by design.
Emoting:
This one is easy, just emote. Make faces and let yourself feel the various emotions you are emoting as well as the transitions, not just the static meme. You can also do it while copying somebody else’s in a video on your phone. Make it fun. Emoting more will increase your engagement as you get in the habit of doing it purposefully a little will trickle down on your daily life, increasing your sense of engagement with life.
Improving your cognitive symptoms:
Work on your cognitive symptoms. Find exercises that work for you. I like counting in binary because it stretches my working memory and internal focus, as well as listening to audiobooks while walking because it forces me to not let my external focus plummet further and further into oblivion in order to keep up with what’s going on with a story that’s moving along at somebody else’s pace. Better cognitives will inevitably lead to better negatives. Find stuff that helps the stuff you care about and focus on that.
Fitness:
Being more fit helps a lot, which means regular training helps and dieting down if needed also helps.
Supplements:
Optimizing your vitamin D levels is the most likely thing to give you tangible results because it’s very likely that at least during winter it dips below an optimal range, I’ve also found Magnesium to help somewhat for whatever reason, albeit in moderation as taking too much magnesium(the suggested amount) in tandem with my antipsychotic was increasing the magnitude of my side-effects for some reason. No idea why that would be the case but it happened for me. A multivitamin to cover all other bases on top shouldn’t hurt either, it’ll act as insurance in case your diet slips up. I am currently trying L-Theanine and I bought some sarcosine that’s still to arrive, for both I can’t attest to anything.
As you can tell it’s all basically train everything that isn’t up to your standards in whichever way you think should help over time, build up easy routines and stick with them. The above are the bulk of what I do/did to improve my negatives, see if anything makes sense to you and it’s something you are willing to give a try. Some of this stuff gave me noticeable results immediately but for most of it it’s just like lifting weights to build muscles, you have to trust the process and make progressive gains, stacking up improvements that become noticeable over months if not years. My approach to negatives is to look at what is missing, break down its subcomponents and find ways to build them up from scratch, then if there’s some stuff that’s salvageable from before becoming schizophrenic it’s my brain that integrates it on its own as I build it up from scratch by giving me bouts of faster progress.
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I take a b complex every morning and that seems to help with my energy.
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I take an AD (Wellbutrin), take various supplements (vitamins, collagen, omega fatty acids) and go for walks.
I think doing things can also help.
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- Did it for nearly a year. I mean faithfully. A minor impact on negatives in some ways, made them worse in others. The diet made me absolutely miserable and my wife even more so. Be very skeptical when you find people here pushing keto as an alternative to meds as it is not. Every single person that I have seen go off meds for keto has relapsed and I have been around here since 1998.
- Most supplements are expensive garbage. The ones that work for me are Sarcosine, Amyloban 3399, and probiotics. I do take B & D vitamins, but for other health issues.
- Yes, CBT and psychodynamic therapy have helped me lower my daily effective dose. The trade-off is learning to live with ongoing positive symptoms. This has only helped a very small amount with negs.
- I am on the max does of Wellbutrin. Once again, only a very small mount of help with negatives. I take it because I become suicidal if I don’t.
- Bwaaaahaahahaahaaa. Nope.
You will get the biggest, most profound help with your negatives by eating a healthy diet and doing some daily exercise. You’ll still have them, but it’s the difference between being trapped in bed and being able to get out of the house and do stuff.
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I use life extension mix powder. It has everything imaginable in it and helps me to feel good.
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