Surely if you started making long moaning noises and threw things off shelves and such, people would notice your presence? ![]()
Haha. I actually what sheās speaking about as being invisible is how much contact we have with people. In elementary theu high school were surrounded by tons of people watching us. Then in college itās more of the same, if you do go. After that work is a much smaller group of people with eyes on. And where I am, call it retired, thereās only 4 people I see on a weekly basis. Ok thatās my rant 
In the end what do you gain from your toil?
- Why is it always about the end?
- How can anyone claim to know what the end is?
- Because time flies, we age quickly and when we look back we see only some vague memories while when we look forward we see the deathās shadow that devour everything.
- No one knows, but our senses show us this depressing situation.
Comeon dude i am depressed but cheer up 
- The now means nothing? Past and future is all that matters?
- My senses beg to differ.
I find meaning all around me, I cherish life, and I am not particularly afraid of death, nor do I think it makes life meaningless.
- now = less than an instant; past and future = conceptually infinite duration.
- did your senses ever see a graveyard?
Less than an instant, and yet the only thing that is concretely real at any moment. And yes, I love graveyards. I love sitting in graveyards and contemplating life and death. I love the tranquility, and I love reading the gravestones and wondering who those people were and how they lived. 
So, you see these corpses and graves and you see that they donāt seem to be living this āonly thing that is concretely real at any momentā.
Then why:
They are not there. I am there. I donāt know what comes after death, so feeling sorry for them just because they are dead would be pointless, donāt you think?
You seem to assume that after death, there is nothing. I can see why you find that depressing. But you can still try to find the beauty in the life you have now. Donāt let death ruin your life.
I donāt assume that, Iām simply talking about the fact that we see everyone aging and rotting and this āshowā is very depressing even if the āreal realityā is different.
Correct me if Iām wrong, but you are depressed, right? I donāt think I can convince you that your life can be meaningful if youāre depressed. Iāve been there myself, many times and sometimes for very long periods. Iām not sure if me saying that I donāt find any of these things very depressing anymore will help or in any way change how you think about them. But if you are depressed, I hope you can believe that you can get better, and I hope you do find life meaningful some day, like I did.
Iām not depressed (if you mean the āsadā depression, but Iām if you mean the negative symptoms) but I sense that this āshowā could create depressive emotions in a person that can feel them.
But donāt worry about me, my apathetic numbness is rock solid! 
ha your all oldā¦im actually 3 7/16ths years old.
Maybe you do, but Iām having a blast. Odds are Iāll try to crawl out of the grave to keep partying. Either Iām not dead and I have nothing to worry about or Iām dead and then I definitely have NOTHING to worry about. Iām golden no matter what. So, in the immortal words of Bill and Ted:
PARTY ON, DUDES!
You should be so proud of yourself.
Cleaning toilets is a job and that you are able to work is great.
Be proud of that!
You might feel invisible but so may not. E the case.
You may be appreciated for who you are and or also for what you do.
If being educated is very important to you then you could study online or and part time.
You could save up for a course you want to do.
I paid for my Aged care course by myself with money I had saved up.
It took me two years to finish the certificate.
It takes others usually a few months.
I can not physically work with it due to my symptoms.
I did wonder if I could have just one client and no more and someone I feel comfortable with and visa versa.
I am not even working with my body n person but am on centrelink but I am proud of myself.
Hope you will feel proud of yourself and pleased with who you are.
Is it attention or recognition or appreciation from others you are seeking?
Because you feel invisibleā¦
Maybe you want others to acknowledge you and praise you out loud.
Maybe start by praising yourself for cleaning g those toilets.
Hope you will feel a bit more positive and not put yourself down.
Be good to you I reckon.
I am older indeed too.
I have not been employed much in my life.
Not over a year.
I have wrinkles and I have bought expensive wrinkle cream.
My mum and stepmum have less wrinkles than me.

This is so kind of you. Thank you.


