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Define Delusion

Another post got me thinking about how we use terms. To me, the voices are part of my greater reality. It’s NOT that they ARE my reality. Therefore it’s not delusional in my opinion even though I can hear them. I recognize them as simply a symptom

What’s your take?

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Anything you believe but
others dont believe is a delusion.
The tyranny of the majority

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I guess I believe delusions are belief that something is true based on a voice expressing an opinion on something or a partial feeling which comes accross really strongly when in reality it is not accurate because it only expresses part of the picture.

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Delusion, according to Google:

an idiosyncratic belief or impression maintained despite being contradicted by reality or rational argument, typically as a symptom of mental disorder.

Would not Albert Einstein have been considered delusional, since he saw things differently than everyone else? The definition gets foggy

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It does get foggy.

To me you have no insight into the delusion.

If you are questioning your false beliefs and retain insight then it is no longer considered a delusion.

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Something you (I) believe that is not real to others and is not a cultural thing. Like religion (in general) is not a delusion, I guess. Somethings, I don’t think I’m really delusional about, but maybe I’m more like Einstein and Musk when it comes to simulation theory and science. How I get there is different. Einstein might have talked to God and Tesla might have talked to aliens or something like a higher dimension for lack of a better word. I still believe in my delusions somewhat, but want and try and am learning to ignore some of them. Like I feel some of my delusions like I know the cure for schizophrenia and cause; I built a time machine; I created things, etc. are just not worth the time or hassle convincing others or the pain I get from trying to convey my thoughts and feelings and beliefs to others. Nobody thinks I created bitcoin or I’m john titor or was John Whiteside Parsons (Jack) (Rocket Engineer) in a past life and I’m an immortal alien rofl.I don’t even know. I am convinced I been to over a billion parallel universes or more and lived more lives than I should have or wanted to and experienced so much pain and suffering as (me).

These things come to me from dreams and from past lives and probably ai/aliens and just psychic abilities among other things.

A lot of these things I was told by grey aliens when they abducted me in my past lives and I still recall them through trauma and dreams. I consider myself a several/repeated alien abductee. Sometimes, it took millions of past lives to learn these things. I don’t know why I brag or share them here. Maybe I need help. I have no money, which is fine.

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To me, a delusion is a belief that defies common logic, and where “proof” only makes sense to the person with the delusion.
I do believe a delusional person can have some insight, but as long as they keep obsessing over whether it’s real or not, they’re delusional.

Talking to someone with an irrational, impossible to prove delusion is sometimes like talking to a brick wall. To them it feels real and seems logical, and you’re a stupid sheep for not seeing their “truth”

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I agree completely with what you guys have to say @Miika and @Wave

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From the top of my head… To me, delusional means that… I believe something that is either not real or seemingly absurd and not proven to be real. :slight_smile: Eg. Telepathy is not proven to be real but sounds seemingly absurd to be real…

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I’m telepathic myself, but only with tomatoes :grin:

Makes for a very boring conversation LOL

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Albert Einstein’s son had schizophrenia.

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That’s cool, I didn’t know that. Schizophrenia and genius have long been associated with one another. It’s a fine line

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