Convince me that there is a God I want to believe

believe it or not i didnt. they just by some miracle came right to me.

ā€œLet this cup pass from me.ā€

ā€œMy God, my God, why hast Thou forsaken me?ā€

Well your among a lucky few. Hopefully you were modest.

Personally I’ve got nothing against God… It’s just that Jesus guy…Geez he goes around strutting his stuff like he’s god’s gift to the world or something lol.

any god if there is a god who would let his own believers come down with a mental illness that brings them to believe they are jesus christ himself is one messed up dude. i dont care what you say , but to allow that to happen is just pure insanity. makes me laugh

Yeah pure insanity is how it all seems.

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They call it ā€˜faith’ for a reason. To have faith that something exists without truly knowing. I prayed a lot when I was going through a particularly hard time in life; it felt like there was nothing else I could do. I don’t follow any religion but it helped - maybe it was purely therapeutic (to think something out there is listening/helping) when you’re feeling otherwise helpless.

I don’t think ā€˜God’ has actual control over our lives, though - things happen by pure chance. Mental illness, cancer, poverty…I mean, we’re lucky to be born in first world countries…sometimes just being born on the wrong continent/wrong country can hugely influence your life to the negative.

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Religion gives people hope in a world torn apart by religion

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It’s one thing to believe in a creator, or a higher power, but it’s when people start believing in ā€˜revelation’ and prophets etc that it becomes absolutely ridiculous. Believing in god - fair enough. Believing in Jesus/Muhammad and their ā€˜teachings’ etc - no basis for it. No basis to say that their words are the words of god, and in the case of Jesus there’s not much in the way of substantial evidence that he even existed, let alone that he said anything that is claimed in the bible. Believing in Jesus and his message is believing in nothing more than hearsay

If Jesus was alive today, saying the same things today as he did then, we’d label him Schizophrenic. As for others witnessing him walking on water and everything else…we’d put it down to group psychosis.

And we’d probably be right. I think believing in a higher power is in our nature but the Bible, Koran and every other religious text…I think it’s all fiction with truths dribbled in here and there. God didn’t give us the 10 commandments - we gave them to each other as a guideline to keep society a bit more civil.

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I agree with @Louisa84
I definitely believe in a higher source but when it comes to the bible- or Koran or whatever- I think there is just some truth to it and probably over time it became like that game where a bunch of people sit in a circle and the first person whispers a secret into the ear of the person on one side, they whisper it to the next, and it goes around the circle, only to end up being an entirely different secret…

We don’t even really need to explain the witnesses of him walking on water, considering there isn’t any credible evidence that he ever did such a thing or that anyone witnessed him doing such a thing. Besides, at the time in question and in the region in question people supposedly having done these kinds of miracles were actually fairly common.

And as far as the 10 commandments go, they can be split into two groups - Group 1: The commandments that are actually good commandments worth following, which were entirely unoriginal and have been common to much of human society since long before they were supposedly given by God. And Group 2: The more original commandments, which were commandments that may as well be ignored anyway as they have no moral value, and provide no benefit to society.

Been watching those symphony of science videos on repeat. They are all pretty damn good. RIP Carl Sagan

Yes I agree, it’s clear that someone is mentally ill if they don’t believe in something that there is no evidence for. In the same way, for example, it’s clear that only a mentally ill person wouldn’t believe in the flying spaghetti monster.

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I’m not a believer. I do like the teaching - God is love - in the New Testament, for it’s own sake.

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people are always saying the same thing like ā€˜there is no evidence etc’ well there is also no evidence that he doesnt exist either

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So you don’t count your bible as evidence?
God is an interesting proposition, but I don’t believe in the classic god that loves us and guides us. People merely turn to a slightly wiser portion of themselves when they try to imagine god’s nature and god’s advice. Would say lack evidence should lead to lack in belief, but its your choice. There may very well be a god whos keeping tabs on all of us.

I suppose you could say that the bible is evidence but I doubt people would believe that

The book has been around for a long time…I can’t dispute it!

Exactly, which is why it’s sensible to be an atheist (atheism being the lack of belief in a God or Gods). Being an atheist doesn’t mean you actively believe there isn’t a God, though there are atheists who do believe that, it just means you don’t actively believe there is a God. People who are not sure whether there is or isn’t a God, and therefore do not have a ā€˜belief’ either way on the existence of God, are by definition atheists.

But believing in God is one thing, believing in revelation or scripture makes no real sense.

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