CBT does not always work

https://div12.org/treatment/cognitive-behavioral-therapy-cbt-for-schizophrenia/

Is there a separate “cbt for schizophrenia” ? As opposed to ordinary cbt, I wonder.

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Interesting but I highly doubt that my new therapist is familiar with this CBT approach.

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I don’t think that there are many therapists that are familiar with CBT for schizophrenia.
Not in my area at least.

Maybe my last therapist knew that CBT would prove to be ineffective for me.

I hope this new therapist knows what she’s doing.

Seems like she was putting on her best face for the first session to gain my business.

I’m just wondering if CBT can prove to be harmful in my case.

I will be questioning her at next weeks session.

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I found CBT to be very helpful, personally. I hated emotions, so it was much easier for me to look at things in terms of observable behavioral changes.

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My therapist did CBT but also just general talk therapy, too. So I guess I can’t say which helped more, but the ways I changed my thinking about a lot of things absolutely made a night and day difference in my depression and having a better hold on my moods helped me have less stress, which helped me have fewer sz symptoms. Not to mention, the things I learned through CBT were just generally good life skills.

However, I think if you don’t have a really good relationship with your therapist, you may as well give up. It’s not likely to help you if you don’t truly enjoy your therapist.

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No so far I really like my new therapist.
I can definitely work with her.

Good to know that you found CBT to be helpful.

@Ninjastar and @LED

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The main reason so many therapists use CBT is because insurance companies will pay for it.

REBT (Ellis) lead to CBT (Beck). It’s based on the thoughts>feelings>behaviors triad found in many psychological paradigms.

Negative thoughts and behaviors are challenged using an evidence-for, evidence-against method, and emotional self-regulation (delay of impulses) and coping strategies are introduced. It’s often effective for depression and anxiety disorders.

For schizophrenia, I think CBT will not be effective, but psychodynamic psychology, a theory and therapy that tries to help a person understand why they are thinking/feeling/behaving a certain way, may be more effective.

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Thanks @anon16583342!

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Remember that every symptom or behavior you have is not just sz. CBT may give you tools to cope with some. Especially anxiety based worries. It never hurts to learn new skills and tools or to put them to use.

And if it doesn’t work for you at all, tell your therapist. She may have other approaches. Even talk therapy helps get frustration and worroes out where you can deal with them.

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Cbt takes a lot of practice. But it can help.

All it really is is a tool or strategy to modify your behavior so you can better cope with symptoms. It won’t make your symptoms dissappear

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@Wave

I told my Doctor that my Insurance Company was dogging me to take CBT. He told me only if it is CBT for Psychosis. He didn’t feel any other form would benefit me.

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I thought you where in to bootle.

Thanks @anon4362788 @anon39054230 and @LevelJ1

I don’t understand @AshelyMapp

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I was replying to Patrick L

Who is Patrick L? And what does the word ‘bootle’ mean?

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What rhymes with orange !

Bootle: when you have had a few too many bottles.

To bootle. The act of bootling.

“Awww man Danny got shook bootled last night it was the best.”

Sir Levels urban dictionary of wonders :smile:

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Pat knows what i mean, you don’t have to start the role playing.

Hmmm…

My Spidey senses are telling me we might have a Troll on board.

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Bootle does not rhyme with orange lol

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