I have two sets of voices, one is thought like and they are the ones that talk to me, my audible ones speak through the walls like chatter, and they used to keep me up at night.
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Mine are usually loud thoughts, though I have heard the occasional outside my head type of voice. I can hear them like they’re on the inside of my ears instead of the outside.
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Mine are mainly internal.
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Mine are very clearly inside my head, though they were outside at the start. They don’t sound like thoughts just like someone speaking. I have also hallucinated my family saying things that they didn’t actually say
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I’ve had both, but I have more internal voices than external. Most voices come along with the visual hallucinations for me, and vice versa.
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Medication makes things pretty quiet but I can tell what the voices are thinking, like a thought now. It used to be I would actually hear them in my ears, on the inside usually. Every once in awhile I hear an outside voice, to me it’s always more scary.
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So yours are purley audible then.
There are two divisions of mind. One is perception, and those are vision, sound, smell, taste, tactile touch, and proprioception. They are what comes from data from outside of the brain. The last one is how you can feel your feet with your eyes closed and ears closed. Then there is proception, and those are feelings (endocrine), creative thoughts or imagination, memory, and some others.
Sz implies by the greek words the name is rooted in “split mind.” A “rift” means a parting or divide between two things such as two plains. When the mind splits, it’s not new. It’s been happening to human beings for tens of thousands of years because they believe in myths mainly in which the mind can communicate with other minds of other people, animals, objects, aliens, invisible beings, including the entirety of everything that exists as if it were one, anthropormorphized being.
Well, it’s simple. You take yourself a hat full of brains in one hand, and yourself a hat full of brains in the other’n, then you combine a tiny wire between the two, and what would you figure but there must be “teletransmissions” existing as in the minds can communicate with the minds. Now you take those two hat fulls, and you combine them into one hat. Pull out the wire, so now all of the neurons are touching and naturally connected. It’s the same thing cybernetically says the OSS and CIA who did the experiments on the cybernetics of brains back in the 50’s and 60’s in the USA. These experiments led to the understanding of brains like never before in history of human beings, and led to the study of cybernetics and ultimately the computer. Yeap, cybernetic computers were modeled after cybernetic brains. They were trying to control brains with electronic circuits because of the experiments with electrodes in human and animal brains. Electronic circuits, brain circuits…computers. That’s how it happened.
Soooooo…
…my point is that the information in the prehistoric humans about pseudo teletransmissions has been carried and perpetuated to now. It’s very easy to believe, and in my experience I most wanted to believe in it over the reality of my own life and the world I lived in. It’s about pretending to be in contact with things in the skies and other people in the houses, cars, etc in ways that don’t exist. It’s about pretending that all of those perceptions and proceptions I listed are messages from them.
And that’s how the minds, not the brains, split or “rift.”
Those “voices” come in every form of mental faculty in both perceptions and proceptions. It’s not just auditory, verbal words. They’re rifters.
The hardest thing for anyone here to come to terms with is that those rifters are themselves. The only reason it’s hard is because it’s something they don’t understand about what is the mind anyway. The mind is information, so if you want to know what mind is, you have to know what information is. It’s very simple, but no one here’s going to ever speak up and ask that question of me which is alright I guess. I have a good day knowing the answer anyway. No offenses.
So I started off talking to myself meaning to talk to other invisible beings, the universe deity, other people. I did it so much for so long that I taught myself to be myself and rifters. They were rifters, but they were me because I was only pretending my perceptions and proceptions were the pseudo teletransmissions.
How can that be you wonder?
The mind is information, and so are words in a book. We all know a book may have several characters who play the roles in the stories. The letters, words, and sentences represent the images in the plot. They also represent the characters who are playing roles.
It’s one book, but that book is divided up into many people and even one world…just like the mind is. When you talk to someone, some of your mind is information that represents them, and some of your mind information represents yourself at the same time. The same is true of the world you see around you. Everything is your mind in your mind, but we don’t consider it that way. We consider it the world and/or other people too. SO you see we are naturally “split minds.”
It’s just when you put that fake wire in between the objects and the characters of the story. That is the wire of pseudo teletransmissions. If you can believe their is that connection between us and/or anything else whether real or not, then you’re going to get rifters.
Rifters are just the other story characters that play roles in the story book that is your mind. You’re brain makes your mind like bones make blood, livers make bile, etc. It’s just information, and your brain makes it. Computers make it too. Animal brains make it.
What to do then?
I highly suggest you track down what is information before too many more years are over, so you can get a handle on what is real or not in yourself, on that mind. Then let’s just say you pull that “wire” out of there being any mind connections between anyone or anything in this whole universe.
When you do that, there’s no more rift in your mind, therefore there’s no more rifters, and sz is gone. It’ll take time. It’ll take practice. It’s like a wound when you rift your flesh or your bone. With enough learning, practice, and regimen aimed in those regards I have healed very well. The “sun did rise again” so to speak, and it has just began to take heights like I have never seen in my life even before I was sz.
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Man, this is so long post. Omg I can’t read it
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As I have observed in various sites, studies, articles, schizophrenics may have internal or external voices. Internal are not less severe
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The internal ones were the first one that I had, like God speaking to me
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Do you have voices internal or external, but good post.
Like I said…all kinds. It’s not just auditory.
My voices are virtually gone now. If they become a problem, I simply do the same thing again to silence them. No more paranoia.
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Like for instance as far as audio speaking voices there are ones that are out beyond me, and there are ones that are right inside of me which can ride on the real sounds of things like music, etc. But “voices” or what I called rifters above come in all forms of mental functions not just in verbal sentences.
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for a while my voices have been calm but sometimes the internal voices will say things that i would not otherwise know that i can look up online and find out such as big words or certain technical things. when they are outside i have heard music playing a few times when there wasnt any playing and a lot of the time because of my medicine i believe i will hear voices talking that sounds like they are in another room but i cant make out what they are saying but not always
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My voices knew words that I didn’t know either, I had to look it up too. This only adds to the fact that I think their real
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The problem is that you’re looking at it like a superstitious villager. No offense. That’s what most people look at these things like because that’s nature. I did it too for a very long time.
That stuff, the voices, are not about who’s right, wrong, are they “real” or not. You gotta think about what that stuff your mind is before you ever consider anyone else in it or not. A brain is just like any other organ made of the molecules from the ground and air. The brain makes mind information like your other organs make blood, bile, mucus, etc, etc, etc.
You gotta step it up some. Sz is an emergency, and you need to take emergency precautions. Remember that you’re feeling the feelings that drive you to play the “regular villager” when you gotta get to the level of thinker, philosopher, introspective scientific seeker and that kind of thing. You don’t think of yourself that way, and if you never do, your own brain’s gonna be producing mind that fools you all your life. No one in “the village” will take you seriously like that.
Take care.
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I always try too separate reality and fiction by logical thinking kinda like what you are saying
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That’s good. What’s your definition of logic?
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My definition has been skewed by schizophrenia, but my definition for logic is reality thinking. Trying to stay in this realm of thinking and not getting delusional ideas and beliefs, to me that’s logic.
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