Are all schizophrenics intelligent

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I was pretty good in science and math before sz but now I have problems remembering what I want to say and problems in doing basic and simple activities such as showering, walking outside etc

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(e.g. CS Lewis - clearly with extremely high intelligence in the linguistic domain - was utterly unable to pass the school certificate mathematics exam despite many attempts - probably set to be passable by the top ten-fifteen percent of the population.)

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I have issues with showering too but i always had them before illness, at one point my mom screamed at me to wash my ass because i didnā€™t shower for a week.

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I shower once a week since having negative symptoms a few years ago :sweat_smile:

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You can be as smart with SZ as you were before you had it. I had the same problems you described nearly three decades ago. Continuous work on self-improvement has me where I now outperform neurotypicals.

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143- 153 on psychometrician created and/or normed tests (99.79- 99.98) is more than respectable.

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Have u done a real iq test ?
I went to a psychologist and she reffered me to a couple institutions for highly gifted people.
Although i dont think i woulf really score high on an iq test

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As a pre teen (8-11) I was assessed as ā€˜being around 150ā€™/147 according to a testing system doing the rounds in San Francisco then . At my British public school I was tested,but was never told the result.

Iā€™ve done a heap of high range rests. . Although not the best results Iā€™ve got I take the psychometrician involved tests as having a greater level of credibility.

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I donā€™t think having a low attention span means your dumb. There are plenty of people with SZ who are smart. I consider myself to be pretty high functioning despite my diagnosis Iā€™m in my junior year of college.

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I had above normal intelligence tested at the beggining of acute psychosis at age of 19.
Was best mathematician in elementaryā€¦

Now my intelligence is average.

My main goal is to improve quality of life regardless of IQ. There is no point in having 200 if you canā€™t cross the streetā€¦

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Iā€™m convinced Iā€™ve always been average in terms of intelligence. Psychosis did a number on my cognitive abilities but Iā€™m working to get them back up to speed.

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Thatā€™s a good comment.

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Sorry @firemonkey, I was bit harsh.
I think that all schizophrenics should work every day on improving social and personal skills how to cope with illness.

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Obviously, just like the rest of the population, szā€™s intelligence is going to vary.

Intelligence is relative, but I guess if you are asking if all szā€™s are more intelligent than normies or the average person, I would think the answer would be no.

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Statistically speaking, those with SZ are more likely to have lower intelligence than those without. SZ is associated with cognitive issues.

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I literally deal with all of those problems. That was actually how i first started believing i had schizophrenia, because those symptoms were all present so it told me that i might actually be sickā€¦

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So Iā€™ve heard.

I am not a statistic! :scream:

I think a lot of szā€™s on this forum fall outside the statistical norms. I think we tend to have more high functioning szā€™s here. I would suspect that our average here would be higher than the average of schizophrenics in general.

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Iā€™m so dumb I donā€™t know what is intelligence so I canā€™t answer your question.

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Maybe high functioning is not the right phrase. Just more intelligent in general. A lot of us still have issues functioning. I donā€™t want to give examples, but there are many here who seem quite intelligent but arenā€™t necessarily functioning well because of negatives and such.

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Yeah but youā€™re cute so you can get away with it.

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