Ok, so I am fully aware that people and psychiatrists each have their own idea of what they consider to be delusional.
If I go to my Pdoc and say “I think someone is watching me through pinhole cameras in my walls.” I think everyone would classify that as a delusion (you know, unless it’s really happening. Right?)
But, if I go to my pdoc and don’t say anything about said cameras because I know he’ll just dismiss it as a delusion, is that still delusional?
The difference is, in the second situation I recognize the belief would be seen as a delusion. The reason I don’t tell him in this scenario is because I know he won’t believe me and will think that I’m delusional, which is embarrassing.
The thing is, I’ve always heard if someone knows what they’re thinking is delusional, then it’s not a true delusion. I don’t really get why though. I never told coworkers that I thought there were cameras in the walls specifically because I knew that is the kind of thing “crazy” people say, and I didn’t want to be thought of as crazy.
So if I recognize that others would classify it as a delusion, am I not really delusional after all? If not, then what would I call it?
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I Have the same problem, i guess it depends if you really really believe the delusion with everything else aside and despite what other people would say!
Also it’s not good to hide your delusions from your pdoc, symptom blocking isn’t the one x
So, if you put a red apple in a room without any light, does the apple turn black, or is it still red?
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I’m open an honest with my doctors about my delusions. It doesn’t seem to make a difference to my treatment though. 
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It literally warms my heart that someone managed to put this into words. Thank you sincerely for an excellent post.
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de·lu·sion
[dəˈlo͞oZHən]
NOUN
an idiosyncratic belief or impression that is firmly maintained despite being contradicted by what is generally accepted as reality or rational argument, typically a symptom of mental disorder:
“the delusion of being watched”
synonyms: misapprehension · misconception · misunderstanding · mistake · error · misinterpretation · misconstruction · misbelief · fallacy · illusion · fantasy
the action of deluding someone or the state of being deluded:
“what a capacity television has for delusion”
synonyms: misapprehension · misconception · misunderstanding · mistake · error · misinterpretation · misconstruction · misbelief · fallacy · illusion · fantasy
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If you believe there are cameras hiding in the walls, and there were not cameras in the walls, then your delusional.
If you knew that it sounded crazy, but you believe the cameras are there despite what others say-that it’s not true, then unless you can prove there are cameras in the walls, then it’s still a delusion.
If you do prove there are cameras in the walls… then you must be associated with my ex.
Hehehe, then the delusion becomes a fact, and, um, yeah, what’s next, everyone quietly packs up and heads home?
Did I just make a mess of this thread?
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I love when schizophrenics are actually real with each other. Such amazing people.
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You ex found cameras watching him/her? I could absolutely believe it.
yeah I tell my doc my delusions too.
The funny thing is some of my previous doc’s put so many freakin ideas in my head.
This new doc, just nods and tries to help me if I tell him I am not doing well.
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I think it would just be a delusion with some insight. You realize other people do not think it is real. And you’re not taking a hammer to your drywall to find the cameras.
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im sure they psycho analyze to some extent
A delusion is a delusion whether a pdoc says it is or not.
If you believe the Earth is flat, and your pdoc agrees with you, it’s still a delusion. There is overwhelming evidence that the Earth is round (or close to round).
I used to believe things without concern for who else believed them. Everyone else was wrong. Now, I still believe in my angel who is with me because, for me, there’s proof. But I understand that no one else sees “him”, and no one else believes he’s there. I call him a delusion to please others. It’s easier that way.
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Yet religion makes people believe in invisible people.
Everyone should just be on meds iMO
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If you’re referring to the apple I left in my pantry a few months ago, it’s brown now and smells funny.
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No, I found proof of cameras in our house.
One “delusions” shot down by proof.
Fair to say this was not your “Usual” case.
I think for things that can’t be definitely proved or disproved, it depends on how well your beliefs fit with those of society.
For instance, we can’t prove Jesus was the son of God (that’s why it’s faith) but it is a common belief. We also can’t prove that you (generic you) are not Jesus, but it’s not a commonly accepted belief that you are Jesus 
IMO it is still a delusion whether you talk about it or not. I tell my pdoc everything but I don’t tell everyone else because I will sound like a nutball. I very much believe I am living in my own Truman Show staged reality everyday with cameras everywhere including in my eye. The fact that I choose to keep it to myself for fear of sounding like a nutball doesn’t make me any less delusional.
However…it does show that we have some insight! We would be much further down the rabbit hole if we thought it sounded perfectly normal. We are delusional with insight and prefer not to talk about our delusions. I have had people ask me how I could still believe it if I know it sounds ‘crazy’? I just do. Oh, I know it sounds crazy as shyt but I still believe it. I’m delusional.
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