Why you can’t judge health by weight alone

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While what is said in this article is primarily true, as an obese man, I dont like these kinds of articles. People have been trying to normalize obesity for years, primarily, I believe because Nations like America have a problem. An obesity epidemic.

Arnold Shwartzenegar is not the norm. Most people that are obese have an excess of fat, not muscle.

Just like this article rightly points out shaming those that are overweight is not helpful, its not helpful to try to normalize it either. My weight is a problem. Most people that are overweight are at higher risk for a plethora of health conditions.

Even as ssome one who is overweight, these types of articles make me a bit angry.

It’s all just subtle ways to try to normalize obesity for the feel good benefit of making an overweight society feel better about themselves. And it has been going on for awhile.

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I donn’t see it as ‘normalising obesity’ but as giving a more accurate picture of what adversely affects a person health wise. It certainly hasn’t made me think, as an obese person, that obesity doesn’t matter.

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I didn’t read the article but it is true that weight is just one factor. It’s a common health problem so it’s popularized but overeating is just one cause of bad health. For example one could over drink, or over smoke or overdose on drugs etc. there’s many things that can make people sick. Too much food just happens to be one of those things and the most popular cause of bad health so it gets a lot of the spotlight

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Im obese and working on it. I dont think obese people should be shamed or made to feel bad but obviously its jot healthy for our bodies.

That being said im much healthier than my dad is and was at my age, because he smokes and is always stressed out more than me. I know his blood pressure is through the roof. Yet he is at a very healthy weight.

Too much of the wrong foods. You can eat some foods like a hog, safely, while maintaining a healthier weight. That means giving up crisps and cheap, processed foods.

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Hmm I mean there is some truth to that like it’s far better to eat carrots than chips but even then it’s technically not healthy to even eat vegetables all day. The intestines need rest in-between meals to not only digest the food but to heal and rest and cultivate good bacteria etc. not only that to much even vegetables will cause gas etc so. Overall overeating really anything is bad for the health. I’ve learned this through the stuff ive read on fasting. But yes eating too many vegetables is vastly healthier than eating too many chips for example.

For me, I want to eat healthier but I don’t want to be miserable doing so. I can only take beans,pulses, and similar things in smallish amounts. I don’t like lentils. I like most veg, but don’t have it enough. When I do It’s frozen mixed veg.

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I have frozen mixed veg as well as just me if I buy it fresh ends up in the bin

Same here. I do a weekly online shop.

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For Asda i pay £3.50 a month for unlimited deliveries between Tuesday and Thursday

Not sure if other stores do that too

Called a delivery pass

They do similar.

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That’s how I used to be. Turns out that I wasn’t cooking them right. The trick is to amp up the spices (except salt!). Fresh herbs are especially lovely. I brought along the portable pizza oven, loaded it with charcoal, and did roasted beets, sweet potatoes, mushrooms, parsnips, carrots, and baby onions served with hummus for dipping. That was our supper.

That’s roughly what we had. I have a planter with fresh spices I bring along in the caravan to poach from while I am camping. I’m sitting about 150 feet from the shore of the south end of the lake at Travers Dam Provincial Park in Alberta, Canada, right now. It’s basically a field with firepits for camping, but no services. Wide open spot to park a trailer.

Yes I want to be healthy, but I also want to enjoy it when I sit down to eat. I still demand flavours that punch me in the mouth.

When I say, “eat like a hog” it’s relative. What I mean is that I spent most of my life viewing diets and healthy eating as punitive. You can eat what you like? Sure. Have that cheesecake and that salted toffee, but you’d better keep the portions postage stamp-sized. Also? Be prepared for the cravings that come after eating refined sugar. Refined sugar begets more refined sugar, I have learned.

Now I can fill my plate with roasted Brussels, carrots, curried lentils, half a chicken breast, and scoop it up with a fresh roti I made myself (so easy to do). I don’t have to eat a small amount and walk around starving. I get to fill myself up to the point of being satisfied without guilt or the knowledge I have shot myself in the foot. I also know that the extra fibre and bulk I have consumed is doing good things for my diverticular disease and staving off that bowel resectioning I’ve been threatened with for a decade and a half. Don’t need it yet. Doc admits I have made positive changes.

Eat non-stop all day? No. Have a meal with generous portions that are satisfying while staying inside the day’s calorie limits? Hell yes.

p.s. Gonna be a sexy SZ model, too. Give @Jonathan1 a run for his money with my grizzled, grey grandpa look. :grin:

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Those are veg I like, but I’m not so keen on the hummus. My problem would be preparing it. These are what the supermarket does.

Hey, that’s a great start. Go for it. :slight_smile:

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My preference would be the ‘ready roast’, but I’m not sure how long they’d keep/if short use by dates. I sometimes think supermarkets give unnecessarily short use by dates, to help boost their profits.

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As a fat person myself I agree. It is not healthy and not normal and just because it may offend people. It doesnt mean we should be painting it out as normal and fine, because it’s not.

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I keep bags of pre-roasted veg in the fridge I can pull out and reheat for a meal. Stops me from ordering take-a-ways.

Going back to the OP, I agree with a bunch of viewpoints. No, people shouldn’t be shamed for being fat. Been there, sucks. Didn’t mean for that to happen and it’s a nightmare to undo without support.

Telling people that big is beautiful IS NOT HELPFUL. I’m sorry, but morbidly obsese is not beautiful. Has not been, never will be. And enabling people to continue sabotaging themselves like this instead of moving towards being overweight (you can be overweight and very healthy vs. Obese III which never will be) is horrible.

I would like for people to improve their diets, get as active as they realistically can, and to reach a healthy weight for them that takes the strain off their hearts and joints. And for the aholes who enable people to sabotage their health to drop dead.

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Funnily enough I saw a video on my Facebook come up the other day of a couple. She would eat 20 000 calories a day and he cooked it all for her and fed it to her.

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Legal way to collect life insurance (if she’s still insurable).

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