Who are the Pilgrims and you are the Indians

during this Thanksgiving we are grateful for family and friends we are also thankful to the Felow countrymen overseas. I was wondering how many of us are …

I’m both, on my mom’s side her grandfather came over from England, and married an American Indian woman (her grandmother).

wow why great great grand Paul Eugene Mary live Indian woman but my grandma was three quarter Indian but my family was predominantly English

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I’m going to be a Pilgrim on Thanksgiving day, because I will be visiting my aunt. I will be an Indian at the office party. I’m going to make Cream of Cauliflower if I can’t get out of it.

I have Math homework which will get in the way of cooking the night before. I might just cook it at Dad’s Wednesday morning.

I’m both, but mostly pilgrim. I’m on the Chickasaw tribal roles, but the Scotch Irish strain is the dominant part of my genetic make up - the Scotish Presbyterian. I come from Oklahoma, though, the land of the red man. I’m addressing you from the heart of the Cherokee Nation. There are a lot of Indians in the Eastern Oklahoma hills where I live.

If I was the Indians I would have told those intrusive white people to get the he** out of my country and take your da*mn smallpox with you back over the Great Waters to your own country.

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Vegas doesn’t have indian casinos as far as I know. There are several near Sacramento though.

I guess they’re all here in Cali then.

I don’t gamble, I love bingo though.

Bingo is fun. Blackjack is fun.

Bingo is fun, but blackjack is only fun if you win. You always win in Bingo, and when you lose and see a super excited 80yr old woman screaming bingo you still win :smile:

If they could have they would have. Like a species invading and wrecking an ecosystem, white people spread across the North American continent. The diseases they brought with them ravaged all within their path. Some of that was deliberate. The whites were known to give the Indians blankets infected with disease.

Very close to me me there, except I have Cherokee/Creek along with the Scots Irish… I don’t consider OK ‘Indian country’ because it came about due to the govt forcing all the south east tribes to march there on the trail of tears and so a number of camps/reservations were started. Originally OK was home to only a few tribes:

Earliest Period - 1830
The tribes usually described as indigenous to Oklahoma at the time of European contact include the Wichitas, Caddos, Plains Apaches* (currently the Apache Tribe), and the Quapaws. Following European arrival in America and consequent cultural changes, Osages, Pawnees, Kiowas and Comanches migrated into Oklahoma, displacing most of the earlier peoples. Anglo-American pressures in the Trans Apalachian West forced native peoples across the Mississippi River; many including Delawares, Shawnees and Kickapoos-found refuge or economic opportunities in present Oklahoma before 1830 However, some of those tribes split in the process. *Naisha-traditional reference to the Plains Apache

1830 - 1862
The Indian Removal Act of 1830 culminated federal policy aimed at forcing all Eastern Indians west of the Mississippi River. The Choctaws, Cherokees, Creeks, Chickasaws and Seminoles–the “Five Civilized Tribes”-- purchased present Oklahoma in fee simple from the federal government, while other immigrant tribes were resettled on reservations in the unorganized territories of Kansas and Nebraska. Passage of the Kansas-Nebraska Act in 1854 precipitated further Anglo-American settlement of these territories, setting off a second wave of removals into present Oklahoma, which became known as “Indian Territory.” In 1859, with the state of Texas threatening genocide toward Indians, several tribes found refuge in the Leased District in western Indian Territory.

So basically it turned into ‘Indian country’ due to the pressure from the so called ‘settlers’ (aka ‘The occupation, the invaders, oppressors, etc’)

My Native ancestors somehow avoided the trail of tears in the 1830s and stayed in the southeast, assimilating into white culture, and basically pretending to be full white, keeping the native ancestry secretive until the latter 1900s, as a survival mechanism in a deeply racist environment. A small segment of the Cherokee tribe retained a reservation on the NC/Tennessee border in the Appalachian mountains.

I have sometimes referred to Thanksgiving as ‘Thanks-taking’ because while the original Thanksgiving had natives helping white folk and everyone getting along, hence reason to give thanks, later the invading Europeans stabbed the Natives in the back and started the genocidal practices and displacement from their lands…

Hechetu welo…

theyre not actually idians when the settlers went to America they were like your the Indians right they said no no were not ok said the settlers your the Indians and never changed what they called them,LOL

I’m neither Pilgrim nor Indian. My ancestors didn’t steal Indian land nor bring smallpox nor massacre villages, same for slavery. But because I’m white I still get the blame.

the indigenous people in all areas aboriginals, native americans etc cant carry on blaming us forever for the sins of our fathers. I went to Australia and some aboriginals point blank rude and hate white people “its not my fault what my great great granddad did”