-What do you guys think of recovery?
-How it should be?
-What do you expect in return?
For me:
-I feel good, I think I have recoved, with meds still in place.
-I should be a kid again.
-Ability to stick on to a routine. With out psychologist help. Be able to do my own stuff with interest.
I donāt know. Recovery can mean a lot of things. I have been recovered from the positive symptoms(delusions) of schizophrenia for a long time. Almost 3 years. I still donāt feel recovered from the negative symptoms though. I donāt if I ever will for sure.
Am I recovered? IDK.
I donāt think Iāve truely recovered because Iām still on the pills 20 years later.
Still. I live a great life and I enjoy it. Itās different from most of my peers but itās not a bad thing. It really is a good lifeā¦
So. For me itās quality of life. I know people without mental illness and in my eyes their quality of life is worse than mineā¦Itās all about perspective.
I really hope that I have some recovery to go and that some of these negative symptoms can be beat back in time. As agent101g were discussing earlier, they often measure recovery in the first 10 years after initial onset of the illness, so maybe I have some time to progress yet.
I have hope of more recovery.
For me I was Dxāed 2011 its 10 years now.
Hopefully, recovered. But I am scared to the core to stop the meds.
I donāt think that they are talking about being able to stop the meds kind of recovered. Just that people are able to go back to work and whatnot. Most szās need meds for life.
Oh okay. I was away for a couple of days.
The recovery model here is used as a callous way to treat people with ongoing mental health problems
It involves just giving people pills until theyāre numb, and kick them out of treatment
Me personally, I have had a lot of problems with side effects, and now been on the books of secondary mental health services full time since 2016
What I expect is a level of care to enable me to be as productive as possible
I just waited 3 months just to speak to my doctor about sexual side effects from a pill I was prescribed
Itās like they donāt care that I have had to take time off work to help me recover from a depressive episode, and are happy to waste my time with switching meds late in the day
Now I have a choice, take more time off in order to recover (Again), or I can try to work even though things will be really tough
Right now I am finding it so hard applying for jobs and putting quotes out when my mood is so rotten
Itās hard
The SZ is in remission (Kinda), itās the anxiety and depression that has surfaced since been stable psychosis wise that is killing me right now
Staying out of the hospital and my symptoms lessening is my idea of recovery. Iāve always worked and taken care of myself through a lot of the worst of it already.
I used to think remission was being able to go off meds, and be fine again, and work and have a life. But my doctor burst that bubble. He considers me in remission, because Iām relatively stable on meds, compared to what I was before meds. Personally, I donāt think I have recovered, because thereās so much I still canāt do. I have no friends offline, and I have no job. Iāve lost all belief in myself. I chip away at my unpublished novels, but I donāt think theyāll ever get picked up by an agent. I think my novels are just another form of escaping and not dealing with reality. Itās the same mistake I made with art.
Haha, they seriously arnt gonna give a monkeys whether you can get a stiffy or not.
Its just not in their remit.
āClinical Recoveryā = managing symptoms effectively, coping with everyday stress, and staying out of hospital. Taking measures to avoid a crisis escalating.
āPersonal Recoveryā = overcoming or eliminating symptoms, living healthily, ongoing process of self-actualisation, meeting needs, achieving goals, and thriving rather than surviving.
Thatās my interpretation
Recovery means for me being able to study or work full-time, with or without meds.
They have changed the medication
Yea they will just keep changing medicine until they found one that āsuitsā you but the truth is that itās just different potency of medicine and different strength of side effects
Because for the last 30 years its the same mechanism of moderating dopamine via blocking D2 receptors and ht2a serotonin
I think change of meds is like, shifting me from one condition to other and pin pointing the actual cause that led to sz. And treat that.
Luck me and my pdoc tried so many meds and found one. The right one. Hopefully.
Just my understanding though.
I 'm at the yearly review stage(had it today), with some stubbornly persistent āminorā residual symptoms . However in no way am I functioning as well as the average non mentally ill person of my age. I lead a rather simple life, and get a fair amount of support. Thereās no doubt the 3 monthly depot helps too. If the pressure/stress was ramped up,things could become a lot worse.
I think all hobbies are like that. As long as itās healthy
Perfect recovery would be no longer having any form of symptom while off medication. They are all too rare.
My idea of recovery, or at least as far as Iāve come? Strict med compliance, a reduction in symptoms, and the ability to stay off the ward.
Iāve learned my med combo to achieve this, I have coping tools when I get breakthroughs, and a great support system. Thatās enough for me, and as good as I think Iāll get under current technological limitations.
Free enough from symptoms, or symptoms are well-managed enough to be functional and enjoy a high quality of life. This isnāt complete recovery, of course.