What Happens After SZ?

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What happens is you are no longer trivialized by your mind’s inner effects. You are one of the people that understands them in yourself and in other people. Remember that: in yourself and in other people. You also are convinced without a doubt that those voices and thins you’ve heard are your own personality that you fragmented off when you learned how to socialize with yourself because you thought ESP was amazing, so it had to be real without a doubt.

It takes time to become indifferent with with your inner self treating the invisible phenomenon of yourself as a series subjective apparatuses of yourself that are expressing themselves without social influence on you because you know it is your amazing, witty mind working, and therefore it is not anyone else in your invisible mind.

As you learn the truth, and then you learn to be indifferent about those voices and other mental affects that your miraculous invisible self can make, you start to do something special.

There have been experiements that have shown that abused animals that are punished for crossing a certain line learn not to go there passed the line. Even when the line is no longer being punished for, they are careful whre that line was at. It takes awhile, but eventually the grow out of it, and they travel past the line into the rest of their places without fear.

This is the case in the sz culture. By having made believe there are ESP people in their minds, they made a line where they could not go because that is other people. Essentially the sz culture believes their minds are an ESP internet forum, and that space where the messages are received are actually their own feelings, thoughts, and senses which they see with the aid of the illusion that there is ESP messages and control in their minds that.

Imagine there is a whole amusement park before your eyes called the Great Wonderful Mind World. Here everything you see, feel, remember, think, here in all of the ways you want to can be for you to ride just like amusement park rides. If you like something about it, you can practice making it greater and greater. For instance if you like how you see math very intricately, you can practice solving math, studying math concepts, and so on until you have an expert math ride. Or you could do the same in sports, or socializing, and you can even do this if you want to pretend your mind rides are messages from other beings with ESP.

But what is difference between the ESP rides and the rest of the rides?

This is very important. First, remember that the whole park is yours to ride, and that you can make your rides do anything you want to with research, practice, and perseverance. When you make your big math expert ride, it’s all yours…every inch of it. The same is true when you make your sports rides and your friend and family rides etc.

BUT…and this is a big deal, but the problem is when you see your rides as being others rides in that invisible mind park (your mind is invisible to everyone but you in reality by the way), suddenly you can’t go there so much. Actually it often becomes a Haunted House of smoke and mirrors etc. In fact the whole wonderful mind park becomes haunted, so you basically become taped off as a no go zone because they who be there within that mind are not working with reality any more. In other words the rides are dangerous.

Well, I don’t have to remind anyone what it’s like to have to basically park yourself because you’ve become sz. It’s self explanatory, right?

The trick to it is that when you are coming down from that sz ride finally in your life because you finally have it all figure out like you understand the operator’s manual for the mind, then what happens is you start to test that park again.

Before you were sectioned off from riding your minds rides so to speak, but like the animal that learns there’s nothing to fear for crossing the line in to the rest of the spaces, you too start to feel that you can move about freely in your mind again. AND IT FEELS GREAT! Mark my word. Make no mistake about it. There is nothing like it.

Have you ever seen the videos of blind people that have been made to see for the first time, or just color blind people that have been allowed to see color first time. There are people that have been made to hear for the first time.

These people that sense the world around them with the major senses weep, and they are absolutely awe struck when they perceive what seems like a phantasmagorical world.

Well, when you start to be able to cross the boundary in your mind again in your life, it’s like the first time, and it is epic

Mr. Niceberg

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Think what happens after sz is called recovery. If you work your ass off it will never happen again. Meds and talking therapy do go hand in hand. MRI scans that the brain does repair itself.

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When you take meds, do you take them to eliminate the voices, or do you take them to eliminate the feelings you have in reaction to the inner voices, so that you don’t see them as being ESP personalities outside of you?

Another I have to ask is do you believe that inner voices are normal or abnormal? Or do you believe what is abnormal in your case is how you were conditioned to believe in those inner voices as being ESP personalities outside of yourself?

Mr. Niceberg

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I’ve mostly dealt with thoughts and hallucinations. Meds reduce symptoms learning coping techniques and having a sounding block really help. Deal with your issues it helps reduce symptoms on top of that.

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Okay, but what do you think is wrong with you: the data you perceive is wrong, or is the way you perceive the data wrong?

Data
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Perception of Data

What I mean is that if you heard voices, saw things, or whatever you experience that you do to make you an sz, would you be okay if they didn’t scare you or distract you? Could you carry on happily with them there in the back ground if your reactions were not directly changing according to what they say or their presence?

Mr. Niceberg

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I think I see what I want to see.

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I think the data or voices I perceive are the problem. I don’t know if I’m perceiving something unreal, but I just can’t handle it.

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Okay, when you see what you want to see, how does that handicap you?

I was handicapped by sz much worse than most of all of the sz’s that are on this forum, so to me you and I are of the same culture and life journey searching for a better existence. But anyway…about the question.

This is a simpler question: do you believe in supernatural ESP of any kind with any kind of being whether human or non human or even extra human?

Mr. Niceberg

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Sunlion, do you believe in supernatural ESP of any kind with any kind of being whether human or non human or even extra human?

Mr. Niceberg

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Sure, I could buy into that sort of thing. I know someone who supposedly channels a being of good for instruction, and I say why not? I however channel total assholes who like to torture me.

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Okay, well this is the thing about that ESP phenom. It’s common, and it’s as old as humankind. It’s nothing new, and if you know what you are doing, you can also out wit someone who believes in it when you are someone who understands it perfectly. What it looks like to the person that believes in ESP is the person is reading his or her mind, and what it looks like to the person outmatching that person is that the ESP believer is being fooled by his or her own mental data.

It’s like taking two computers to a chess match, and people will place bets on which computer will win.

One computer takes in information about the game, and then it computes a move based on its programmed chess strategies. Therefore there is incoming “data” and “reactions to the data appropriate for the chess match” involved in the chess computer player. The reaction chess move is based on the perceived value of the total positions of the pieces on the board. The reaction program for how the computer plays chess with the opponent is based on the way that chess works.

What is key to understand about the first computer is that it is using rules to play based on the rules and real moves on the chessboard.

Then there is the second computer. The second computer is not programmed to react to the pieces on the chessboard according to chess rules. It’s reaction to the chess positions is almost always a bad move because it functions on non existent rules. Basically the second computer attempts to play chess, but it really is not playing chess because it reacts to the chessboard and positions the wrong way.

We know that the first computer wins every time, but do you call the second computer program corrupted program? You do I think. What that means is that the information about the game is not right. It is missing information. In human terms that means someone has is missing the truth, and instead uses faulty information and strategies based on faulty information to live and exist with oneself, so the person cannot exist with oneself in peace.

I think the common reaction to this person’s situation is to dim down the lights upstairs, so that the mind cannot process faulty information so quickly and fluently. There is more to it though. What about what the truth is about how humankind’s minds are working, and what is false about our faulty sz programming. The problem is not the facts, but instead the problem is in the willingness or ability to learn about this, and successful learn and override the faulty beliefs in ESP with practice and dedication. This is a problem of will, and like the saying goes, you can lead a herd to water, but whether the pond looses a drop of it all depends on the herd’s will. If people want to believe in ESP, they will spit out the truth, and they will continue to think of every way possible to the end of time to make themselves right without every exploring the world of people, and trying to solve real world problems with their faulty information. They are sheltered in the shadows from being exposed.

When people that know how minds work see people that believe in ESP, they realize that the believer will not interpret the information about what is going on correctly all of the time. This is why people usually steer away from sz people. Keep in mind that not everyone knows how minds work whether they are sz or not, but the people who do know can outwit the people who do believe in ESP no matter what form unless one thing…

…if the person believing in ESP doesn’t use the rules of ESP to solve the problems at hand.

For example I’ve always been very bad at dealing with people face to face. 20 years ago I had a difficult time speaking, and I could barely interpret what people were saying. The words were going in one ear and out the other. I had to keep practicing and practicing. I would up becoming very interactive online seeking out reality and what people around the world are like in reality. My mission what to figure out how other people are thinking because I knew that the way I was perceiving the world or other people went wrong somewhere.

I now solve people’s problems on a regular basis. There is practically nothing I can’t figure unless I just have not researched the area before. But the problems do not relate to human beings.

That is the key you have to understand here. I wired by brain to interpret feelings, inner voices, thoughts, and 5 senses about people to believe there was ESP going on, so I could not interact with people without becoming emotionally wrecked. That’s why I wear the sz hat.

But I learned that when I tried to learn and solve people’s problems and my own mechanical and financial problems, I could do that without a problem.

It would be like I was the second computer that could not play chess, but I could play Texas Hold 'em Poker really well. This is true in reality by the way. Hehe. But that is beside the point.

And I guess what I did was pass the problem I could not solve in life, and go on to solve other problems working very very hard until I came full circle back to the ability to solve my mental problem. Now I talk to people about it, and teach them what I know.

Mr. Niceberg

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My last post makes a good, new thread.

Everybody, I love to chat about this, and please reply in kind just of the action, or to learn. You can even PM me any time.

Mr. Niceberg