Is there something we can all agree on? Or is it just subjective?
It depends on your value system, but some people let society define what success is ought to look like and some people decide for themselves.
I think success would generally be understood to be achievement. So it is sort of objective.
Mostly things I donât have AKA a Lamborghini and a Penthouse with indoor pool and patio, also a wife and kids, having enough money for a lifetime and seeing the world. One can dream.
People have already put it in a precise way: you should define the meaning of success by yourself, rather than let the worldly society define it for you. This is something that we can all agree on, especially when we consider the fact that we are a community and group of people with âspecialâ and âextraordinaryâ characteristics.
In my opinion, the definition of success should only be related to spiritual pleasure and the happiness you gain from the process of thinkin and thoughts, and success is not related to anything monetary, temporal, or materialistic. For a simple example, sportscars and villas are useless, compared to the delight you get from, say, reading an interesting and intriguing book on maybe Philosophy or History. If you need to pursue anything materialistic, thatâs ok, but just aim at the things that can maintain your physical, biological life at a minimum level; donât look for anything lavish. And then, you save your energy for the things that really satisfy you, spiritually. Like reading books, watching movies, chatting with people, doing a volunteer job, helping others, and so on. When you are about to die, and you donât regret your life, then you can be called a âsuccessfulâ person.
And all of this do not have any association with how much money you possess, or how the ânormalâ society views you.
Achieving something meaningful to you. It may not have the same meaning to someone else.
Inner peaceâŚ
It is no good being capitalistically successful if you are still unhappy on the inside.
To be able to just sit and be content is key.
To measure yourself against others for better or for worse is a trap.
Look inside. Discover who you are and why one thinks the way we do.
Change your mindset, question your values. In this way you can accept suffering and then it transforms.
Then you could be in a prison and still be personally successful.
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Overcoming oneself and the way you see the world so you can tap inner bliss and joy even though the world around you is crap.
Realistically, the capitalist dream of success is unachievable for most szs, so get what you can get by transforming how you see the world.
Hahhaaa. A bunch of people told me to accept suffering and I told them to accept my middle finger. Some suffering is optional.
Success = Money
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If you mean victory over some obstacle:
- Delegating everything with maximum awareness, and not being passive. Or at least that is what I value in success.
If you mean a life style glorified by achievement:
- A wife, kids, my mind working at its own pace with nobody to bother me, and I have people to delegate tasks, such as interviewing people or researching things, who can absorb that âbothering elementâ from my life, while I smile and wave on this side of the paradise line-marker.
If you mean success in common competitions in life, such as the business world:
- I will find intelligent people whom I can learn from, and then figure out how to play the game to my own rules, so I can win every time.
If you mean an abstraction that represents a feeling of fulfillment:
- I will quote Basam on this: âBe kind, as that is the only thing that lastsâ, if I make people smile by simply being there, then that is a type of social fulfillment that does not infringe itself onto other peopleâs lives, and it is worth having.
If you mean filling societyâs quotas for the picture of success:
- My best guess of what that means to society: âThe drugs, the money, and the B$%^&esâ. I would rather fill my heart with serenity, peace, and happiness, while you take your corporation promoted culture to the very depths of hell. BTW Weimar Germany says hello.
Right on @Pik5Me
I think you are right on about the Buddhist line of thought, but people also need engagement in life.
So people need to learn how to engage without creating strife, instead of trying to just transform it.
People need personal guides, not vague road signs on a pathway that they are not paying attention to.
Being comfortable and not having to worry about bills and being able to help out fam and stuff.
But hey i wouldnt complain if a big house came my way
I agree 100%
For me success would consist of:
- a steady source of passive income - just enough to get me through the month
- a loving partner with matching tastes and interests
- enough mental drive to indulge in pleasurable activities (hobbies and such)
Living my life by thinking right now what needs to be done now
I have started work on thisâŚ
I think thich nhat hanh said some suffering is optional. But itâs still a good idea to accept the suffering that isnât.
I know you know what itâs like to suffer so thatâs all Iâm gonna say .