I think that Schizophrenia is not a disease and is god or angels or demons or jesus or the holy spirit or dead poeple or aliens or mind control machines or some existence I have to bust causing my mind thoughts feelings visions to be controled. But my medication keeps proving that no existance or person is doing anything intentional or unintentional that is causing these problems that are all I can focus on. My medication helps break me from the focus that somthing caused my Schizophrenia and that it is a medical condition. I am speaking for me. If poeple find thier schizophrenia is not a disease that is fine for them and me to but dont tell me my schizophrenia is a disease. Others may be not be any disease or part disease, but mine is total disease.
Nope.
It was just torture.
Itâs of the emily rose or nell from the last exorcism varieties.
Thats all it was, torture, torment, pain and deep fear, a flat-out mauling, threats, creepy â â â â , morbidity, more threats, and then more threats, mocking.
There is nothing useful or meaningful about this experience.
You are here, now⌠therefore you have OVERCOMEâŚhence, there is everything useful and meaningful in the experience⌠you have faced the enemy of darkness, walked through its battlefields, and emerged to tell us about it.
Now the secret is to not let yourself be adversely affected by itâŚand there are ways to accomplish that.
Hello Petester
You have made two very important thoughts in this thread. The fact that 100âs of millions of people have taken drugs and have lived through extremely stressful life challenges and yet only a handful of these individuals have been diagnosed with schizophrenia. I am going another route with my thinking on this particular idea and that is that only certain souls can be effected by voices due to the age of the soul, you have become yourself many more times then other souls on this planet. Now how does this effect the soul, it effects it because these older souls are more evolved. If I think of it this way then it accounts for all the different scenarios taking place within the specified population accounting for all the different outcomes. As for a god being in the mix of these problems we must then ask why has he allowed other souls to enter into the mind of individuals living out their own experience. How is it that something so powerful as a god, he/she has not taken the time to remove these problems shouldnât all these problems have been taken care of already.
Powessy
I donât think they are multiple entities I think its just a result of faulty wiring in the brain.
And Iâm not as religious as some but maybe the trials in life and how we handle them determines if we move on to the next level. 
Hello petester
I believe there are many entities within one entity inside of each of us. The voices only see thoughts about your thoughts or they respond to your thoughts within you. If we were to stop and think how is it they can know so much about things that trouble us, we will see it is them seeing only our thoughts and fears. They do not understand it when your thoughts are found and when you begin to talk back to them this confuses them even worse so they implement a strategy to silence your mind. When a person starts silencing their ego and starts looking at love and good thoughts the voices will change this is because they start to understand thoughts. When we close our minds off to them and try to block them out they rebel and can cause you great mental harm. My voiceâs show great understanding of thoughts and have emotional thoughts about things they see here. I think the other problem the voices face is that they only see mind images, or imagination and they do not understand that this side of things exist this is the same as us believing that that side of things does not exist. it takes an open mind to try and see both sides at once.
powessy
I donât agree but thanks for the input.
I am better mentally because I ignore them and thatâs how itâs going to stay.
Introspection about ones beliefs when you have a mental disorder can reach a point of diminishing returns.
Iâm fairly intelligent. Schizophrenia has slowed some of my progress and in other ways helped enlighten me and move me toward a more meaningful existence.
First, I do not believe that hallucinations or religious fixations are healthy to experience with the notion that theyâre real/fully real or that others can even see them.
To see something that someone else canât doesnât mean that itâs not perceivable by others, it just means that someone has a tool or even defect that another doesnât have allowing them to witness something of a phenomena. That doesnât discredit that delusions and trauma-based hallucinations can be frightening and often are not real.
How do we determine reality? We do it collectively and that is the most ironic part of it all.
I believe that the underworld exists, and that it can influence and be observed in the real world. Thatâs a very uncommon belief, but I do not consider this of a delusional nature as it is merely my own belief arising from knowledge and exploration.
Itâs hard to explain this: it is in the realm of supernatural. Anomalies provide a glimpse into the underpinnings of our earthly existence, which is mysterious.
I donât necessarily believe that this âsupernaturalâ experiences are ârealâ as in, they occur in reality, but are not realâthey are elusive experiences and may not be meant to be observed at all. I hesitate to call the supernatural underworld evil, but more like a dense world full of hyper-dimensional blobs of consciousness.
So no, not all elements have to be defined. If you choose to believe that the alien is not an alien but a fairy or angel or God-form, that is your choice basically- you assign consciousness and project it upon different planes of existence.
I might write more to try and show people what I mean.
I am very interested in reading this and I am not going to support others who donât want to believe they are indeed created the way that they are for a reason =) Although we may not be âperfectâ in what others perceive as a visual or logical ideology. We have been born for balance.
Just as one person would be born to be impoverished
Another is born with birth defects(down syndrome)(ADD)(and whatever others believe is a defect)
Someone is born the the sensitivity to see into the world of imagination/creation(schizophrenia), having to learn how to control their mind from running in directions that take patience to comprehend. Inevitably bringing faith that we are always okay and will be. and also giving compassion to any person in pain, understanding thoughts and how we are here to support and accept one another as they areâŚThis sensativity is the balance of the world of how we take happy children deemed âspecialâ by any other means and try to conform them into what âsocietyâ deems acceptable, rather than to see that their happiness(blessing) is what we should be observing as our potential for non-judgment(tollerant and closer to love). Our rules that keep us in the system of money and control.
For those who have seen these things and realized that nothing outside of the present moment is real is simply a push for a higher understanding by âdemonsâ or whatever in order to go the extra mile if they so choose not to run. Which understandably so these things are not exactly easy to handle especially in times of desperation or hopelessness without proper guidance from another whom has had to endure such processes; which often not many can relate such not everyone is born as sensitive. Which I have experienced both to the depths of being okay with dyingâŚInsane to the point where I had no joyâŚnothing left so to speak. Once I realized I was denying myself my own feelings of how I felt towards situations in my lifeâŚall became peaceful inside and life came back into my lungs, giving me thanks for freedom of choice
Bryan
You are love so very much, and I know what drugs can do to you. The things you saw were real. They were also there to show you things that you really didnât want to see but gave you perception as to what you already haveâŚthe thing we take for granted(breath)there is no need to alter yourself when you are already happy. I know that happiness is something we have long sought after outside of ourselves. And truthfullyâŚyour family and friends are all you need outside of your own relationship with God inside of yourself. No mater what anybody says. Ive been broken in almost every way possible. I escaped a cult. Brainwashing. Energetic rape. Manipulation. Disbelief in myself. and in the end I found out I was happy having family that supported me and gave me the space to wake up in the morning without asking me to do anything but to heal(some people donât have that type of family, which shows me how beautiful they really are), which took a great deal of time. There are many things I wish to say to you. You donât have to relate to anybody, but you do have an obligation to yourself to enjoy yourself in the present moment which is what serves others by process of presence. Your not here to serve people who cannot understand, but you are here for God which is everything inside of you that is outside of you with faith(happiness/graditude)âŚI know hell, separating yourself from everything SIN-Seperate in Nature
Religion is not God
-Re-return
ligion-to bondage
It is for us to accept people in all aspects to what they know simply to state that we are all looking for the same thing. Happiness/peace inside
randomness, more or less Iâm treating this post as close to talking to you in person as I can
Life is a journey brother
Life is about making many many mistakes
Life is beautiful once we can get out of the haze
I lost my belief in God. I couldnât believe God would allow anybody to sufferâŚI became afraid to submit. Afraid to talk to God. Afraid of myself. Thought I was a puppet. I wasnât real. Time wasnât real. Because I felt if I talked to God some other voice would come inâŚI finally gave in
I compared to all the beliefs that I had of people who were psychic, timeless, children of God, AngelsâŚetcâŚI know what it means inside of myself. None of these things use me nor can they without consent
Thanks man, I donât believe in God though. There is no way these peoples minds are that perfect. Telepathy canât be real.
There are some movements that started maybe in the 90s or around 2000 where they are recognizing the âgifted childrenâ who in the past would have been diagnosed ADHD, emotionally disturbed, or even SZ. It was found that in many cases the children simply were not being provided outlets for their creativity and were expected to remain at an educational level of their peer group even if they were fully capable of doing studies 2 or 3 years above their grade level.
Along with that was the family and community effort to try and fit the child into their mold no matter what. Between the restrictions and the prodding, along with mocking by peers, the child often could become emotionally disturbed because they felt no one could truly understand them. All they needed was to be met at their level, not what someone else thought their level should be.
If you multiplied the percentage of those diagnosed with childhood schizophrenia with those who would qualify as âgiftedâ you would get an exceedingly small percentage âŚ
Firemonkey is right here. Childhood schizophrenia has a prevelence of about 1 in 10,000 people I think - so very rare.
The science says that schizohprenia is a neurodevelopmental disorder (something that starts due to a developmental impact during pregnancy and early in life).
I think this discussion has run its course so Iâm closing it.