The Other Side. Is it right for you? Haha!

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I like the other side…

of every thought. I like the other side of every feeling and everything I can see or sense in any way with my 5 senses.

What is it? Is it me, or is it someone else and me?

It doesn’t matter because I care about my people, and I care about solving problems and making money. I don’t need another side of my thoughts with another me on back side of every thought. That is stupid, and in the real world where things are made and won that kind of crap is for suckers.

People in the sz community have it all wrong, and based on my interviews there’s nothing they are willing to do to get rid of their sz except take free medication that someone else pays for. Those people that pay are people who were willing to lose this unusual double sided mind theory as if someone could read their minds, and as if they are psychics. If they thought like sz people thought, they could not pay for freebie meds and freebie lifestyles.

The people that pay the tab on people who are not willing to see the truth, but who are no more than just religious zealots about magical mind powers…those people that pay should be freed of the shackles forcing them to pay up. They have been enslaved. There is no other way to say it.

The only other side I like about my thoughts is me. There’s my thoughts, and that’s all they are: ME. These are not some kind of 3 dimensional objects in my head where I see them and someone else sees them, so then they are some kind of community shared thoughts. No, that is total, make believe, pretend crap. I can’t believe human beings insist on this pretendo stuff being real, and other countries going through tough times would spit on this kind of behavior.

Insisting that pretend reality is real? Really? And you get to live like you’re on paid vacations with free medical attention and all?

The fact is the fact.

There are only 2 sides to a thought: me and me. Each one is me, and I made it myself. Even if I see something with my eyes, it was me that made the vision that is based on the light’s information bouncing around in my eyes balls. If I remember something, that memory is me. I made it. If I think of something, come up with a plan or an idea, or I figure something out, those thoughts I make are me, and they aren’t anything else except me.

If you think these are shared community thoughts in your heads, then you are not only sick, but you are of a faith that you are unwilling to let go for whatever reason. I suggest that if you ever want to be free from you sz chains, you will take my advice, and stop looking the things in peoples heads as community shared thoughts, and start looking at them as sovereinly owned and contrived thouhts. Otherwise you’re just going to rotas your own mental patient slave: the dog that bites and runs from its tail.

The cult of SZ magic beliefs is just stupidity,
Mr. Niceberg

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Sin tax pays our state poor programs

My property tax pays our new schools and cops

My income tax is next to nothing like my paycheck to reward any work

Obamacare pays for itself with growth or decline of our economy

Our teachers from high school are getting 70K year pensions

Social security out of your paycheck is going to people who earn 80K a year

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sz thinking isnt a cult. You could be overthinking the complicated nature of mental illness. lack of insight is a major thing that causes us to get very absorbed in delusions/hallucinations.

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You can’t just tell someone to stop being mentally ill. It doesn’t work like that.

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The pensions to the former gov officials have bankrupt the state of Illinois

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Just wanted to know if you knew really where your money is going

Gov money for free lunch gives funds to schools

All gov agencies cut back closed or reallocate

Gov jobs pay starting at 60K

100,000 more troops to Afghanistan this year under Obama

All republicans spending double for VA services

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I know what you mean, but you are thinking of mainstream nomenclature. When you get down to it if there is a group that thinks they should put fruit around a little statue because it makes better luck for them, that is a cult or a religion. Really the two are the same except one is widely recognized, and they go by a widely known name. They are the same because they believe in unverifiable concepts that are not found present in reality, but if they could be found, those would be worth a lot of money, and they would solve a lot of problems changing the whole world to be much better than it is already.

The kind of faith an sz has is akin to that of any kid that has imaginary friends or boogy men under the bed etc. Again it’s believe in things that cannot be proven, or the world would be much different than it is now.

Imagine if everyone believed what sz people believe. The world would fall apart. Did you know that? And why is that true? Because we believed in stuff until we made it real in our minds, and we don’t know what the truth is, and most of us do not care to know the truth as in we are just going to live this autonomous cult like lifestyle on the dole. That doesn’t help any country. It’s a huge burden, and it should not be growing in popularity.

Thanks,

Mr. Niceberg

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I wish it was that simple, I totally understand magical thinking and cult like behaviour and power of belief.

but when i was in my episodes, each time I had no idea that what was happening was not possible. my mind made it possible but I had no realisation that anything was really wrong. I still wouldn’t be able to explain how I came to believe the things I did when my episodes happened.

nonetheless each time I came out of an episode I’d be wondering how in the heck I ever believed something like this was true. just completely bizarre.

for me its been a gradual mellowing of symptoms. and I take a fairly conservative view on the supernatural these days (little to non existent) that keeps me out of trouble as my mind is very susceptible to magical thinking.

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I never mean that I can “just tell someone to stop being mentally ill,” but I still say what I see, and I can see people unwilling to study the facts really hard.

Imagine if you were driving a Unimog? Have you ever heard of those? They make them in campers and all kinds of stuff. They have huge tires, all kinds of tech, and they go off road really well. Made by Mercedes Benz. Google it.

Imagine you’re driving around out in the desert, and the thing breaks down. Do you leave it there, and toll the tax payer to send a helicopter, and take you back, and then pay for your home and meds because you lost every single thing you had in that Unimog? Are you now someone else’s pet project, or are you still going to fix your rig, and make it out as your own person for the rest of your life helpiing people like normal human beings.

Or do you buckle down, and figure out what in the world is going on, and then fix the Unimog?

By the way, the Unimog is a metaphor for your life, and breaking down is the mental illness? The illness is just confusion. You can figure it out if you want to now, and the internet for doing it is right there, but it’s not simple. Figuring it out makes you smarter, sharper, mentally stronger, and it makes you a somebody. It also is free. Consider it like your “Get a Smart and Strong Character Fee.”

Or waste away like a bum on the tax payers’ dole. I don’t get that. (shaking my head)

Thanks,

Mr. Nicberg

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@Niceberg. I have to ask, what exactly are you trying to accomplish by looking down your nose at others?

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This is a forum for those diagnosed with sz. I’m wondering if this is also you with a delusion that it’s not.

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You sound like you are someone dealing in facts, and it sounds like your symptoms were never extreme or apparent for a very long time on any extreme level. That’s good.

I will tell you how I became sz. When I was bored and under privileged as a kid, I would make up beliefs. Call them superstitions or cult religions or whatever. They would be about supernatural stuff with the higher beings or whatever, but they were never like telepathy with people. Then I’d find friends, and I’d never think that stuff again.

Keep in mind I haven’t been able to remember those things until I started systematically solving my mental problem which is another story all in itself.

Later I became a church kid, and so like church people I started fixing my character because of the big guy in the sky.

Later on I became completely atheist in the last years of school, and I became very philosophical. I wound making a group of friends, and we smoked drugs and drank. I never did that until the last year of high school, and I never wanted to until these friends insisted. I hadn’t had friends for a long time since I changed to that school, so I got in with them.

Then after high school I wound up moving to a city where I knew no one, and I became bored. I was trying to be a certain kind of musician, and get into a certain kind of people in the city, and I wound up living on the streets trying to do it. It was just my bad money management and misordered priorities in my life. I didn’t know any better. I was trying to be as great as I could be, and when I look back, I was being entrepreneurial.

The problem was I became broke and lonely while living on the street for a while to save up money to pay for my exhibition and to get into a different home that I could roommate with along with several other people I had met before.

While I was on the street sleeping in my vehicle I remember trying to communicate with magical beings or whatever you know. In fact I remember I went to do a job for my uncle in another city for several months because I was kicked out of my home by mean people, and I remember trying to make believe my thoughts and feelings were visions from others as if my thoughts and feelings and ideas were community thoughts.

You see where this is going. My life became worse, I was not making friends, my family was not there, and they are not social people anyway, and I started getting too bored and desperate now as an adult that has to make my own way. I started become very religious, superstitious, and pseudo culthish with things I was making up to do to try to make my life better. I work very hard, and I was working to hard on this make believe stuff. I wound up become believing that I had made it. I was an other sider with connections, but then those voices and thoughts that were not mine became mean. I remember it distinctly. I remember everything.

When they became mean, my life got even worse. I fell lower and lower in life because I was trying to survive on make believe BS. The worse off I became, the more I wanted to believe.

Had I had known what psychology was, and what people here are like who do not want to stop believing in hooboo jooboo bull crpp, I would have never started trying to make a whole religious activity out of talking to my thoughts, feelings, ideas, and whatever was around me like I was living in some kind of fantasy land.

The way I learned to talk and write is how I learned to communicate and see my voices and things as others, but really all I did was learn to split my own personality into multiple ones that are funny, mean, and abusive.

Well, later I learned I was mentally ill, and I learned what it was about. I was reluctant to come around, but I started seeing the light. It wasn’t until I became enthralled in research about people and minds that I figured out what was going on in my mind and the whole sz community.

I’ve taught myself and have been taught so many things now, and I stopped succumbing to magical beliefs, and I figured out my head problem.

Mr. Niceberg

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I’m just trying to find the culture of people that don’t believe what their minds are telling them about magical thinking, and want to no longer be sz. That’s who I want to make friends with because it seems like I’m I’m alone in the fact that this can be explained, it can be prevented, and it can be recovered from to become more than would have been possible if we never encountered sz.

Is that too much to ask for?

Mr. Niceberg

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I lived for years, working, running a business on my own, stressed to the point of near insanity, all the time not knowing the meaning of schizophrenia. To me they were after me, day after day, hour after hour. No one to talk to (cause I was weird and acting strange). Also to me that is how life worked and how life was unfolding for ME. It cost me any chance of retirement, cost me everything I owned many times, It cost me family and friends lost, It has cost my sanity.

How in the world over the years would the information come to me to buckle down and study mental illness,when from the get go was whipped, punished and given up on as a crazy person from the get go?? And where were all these people to reach in and grab me, sending me in the direction to what you describe?

If you know anything about this illness, there are those who are unable to grasp insight and even when you do, many of us lose that ability and have to go through it all again. If your not living with the insight you describe, the task you present is not achievable

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I’m sz for 20 years now. I’m in the forum discussing sz and the whole sz community not because I think I’m a magical being surrounded by magical beings, but because I did think that before, and now I’m here to find other people the same way. Are you seeing something else, and isn’t that why you are hear too?

Mr. Niceberg

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thanks for sharing your story,

yeah we all have varying degrees and stories.

i actually had extreme psychosis. full blown manic psychosis episodes. it was awful the first time. it traumatised my whole family for months.

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Yup. Thought so. I’m just looking for people that aren’t that way right now, or I’d just be talking to people that believe in hocus pocus all of the time that goes no where.

There are 3 kinds of people:

Before SZ
SZ
After SZ

I’m looking for the wised up 3rd kind because I’m very firm about being in the 3rd phase. This is a very rare kind of person based on all of the kinds of research I do about the world in everything not just sz. I better not sound like a sicko because that’s real. I make money. I know 9 trades. I don’t do drugs, crimes, and I’m sure not lazy.

Mr. Niceberg

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What were your beliefs before you started becoming ill? Can you remember yet, or is your memory still foggy?

Mr. Niceberg

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i became hyper religious, then i became jesus…and then id morph back to myself then id be speaking chinese or spanish (so i thought) and 10 billion other bizzare things. anyhoo.
later it became about aliens (i dont believe in aliens), all sorts of stuff
for a while after my voices decided to call themselves ‘the collective’ or ‘your brain’ after i got rid of the religious stuff and anything remotely magical.

they still try from time to time.

last thing alarming that they said was to burn my guitar cuz it was satanic then they told me to google it and of course its a banshee guitar lol. yes my brain loves to re organise anything ive thought about or looked up over the course of months and then bring it to me in the form of “voices”

that belief that i was getting secret knowledge stayed with me for like 5 years. and i let it go.

fun stuff!

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All I can say is there is no way of responding to that, other than it’s pretty twisted, and I make money, I run my own business for 20 years, I manage trades for large companies. I don’t do drugs, crimes, and I’m sure not lazy.

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