Sometimes lately, while meditating, especially when I am doing really well following my breath and about to enter a jhana, or I’m feeling proud of myself at something I’ve accomplished or overcome, tactile hallucinations will come out of nowhere and start to gang up on me. For instance, I could be noticing my sensations on my body, and a crowd of tactile hallucinations will flock around and settle all over my skin as if in retaliation or as a form of distraction. Anybody else feel that tactile hallucinations are a distracting form of punishment for overcoming something difficult?
Well it’s self induced. You have to consider the SZ as part of yourself to a degree.
My hallucinations would step in every time I directly tried to think of how to get better. Distracting me with introspective garbage and derailing my focus.
I did manage to over come it.
While meditating though, you do hit a deeper state of consciousness in the mind, Almost verge on sleeping. It could just be in that state the real “demons” in there try and come out to play.
Do you have trouble falling a sleep or upon waking naturally… before getting out of bed and whatnot?
Could ask the voices why & see if you get a good answer.
May need to think something else at some point in the meditation to kind of let the negative energy flow away from you.
You know incubus/succubus attacks (just technological bad joke but terrible to the teen girls sometimes targeted) with paralysis can happen, fake heart palpitations, slapped, crawling, hot flashes, itchy without reason, orgasm…Can kind of handle some of it like rag doll and other things, it is get up while saying ‘no thank you’ and come back in 15 minutes.
That is really disruptive to a meditation. I would just see if voices will tell you why it happens and try different ways to channel things before you start to meditate by thinking someone else part of the time…Old, psycho-analysis style of thinking something different as solution.
Mine are in relation to my companion, so I feel “his” presence and can feel the weight of him pressing against the right side of my back and shoulder. That’s at any time, but mostly when he’s talking to me. At other times I feel bugs crawling on me and that’s often when I’m out and feel anxious. When I read what you wrote, I think of the itchy nose as soon as your hands are too messy to scratch. I wonder if it could be that sort of thing? I don’t have a real answer, but it does seem like the mind jumps to opposisition sometimes. I don’t know why.
hi, martin, according to my experience in and knowledge of doing meditation, what you felt when you were doing a deep meditation were not tactile hallucinations but the flow of Qi 气. This flow of Qi is like the blood circulation but invisible like the air. It is moving like wind. So don’t be afraid of its movement around your body. I felt them myself many years ago when I practiced deep meditation. At that time I was absolutely free of schizophrenia. I got this illness 20 years later.
Yes they distract me from life, this is abnormal reaction to stress from my schizophrenia.
I don’t have any trouble falling asleep because I take my meds at bedtime. But I might have trouble falling asleep without, although, lately, I have been foregoing taking the meds at all.at bedtime. I take them after I wake up about one in the morning. When I wake up, I jump out of bed and start doing what i am going to be doing that day. Where is your question leading?.
It’s not Qi. It’s tactile hallucinations, believe me.
I also meditate, and while I don’t experience tactiles I do suffer from an increase in voices and visual hallucinations when I enter a certain point. For me the experience can be either very disturbing or very enjoyable.
Sometimes I have very bad ‘visions’ about people I love being hurt or dying.
Sometimes I have ‘visions’ about people I have lost being alive and well in their respective next place. (I believe that when you die, you ae judged for what you did and if you did good, you get to choose a new life or a rest time in paradise, if you do bad its a 100 years of punishment before trying again).
Maybe its your SZs way of trying to communicate with you? See if you can get beyond the Tactiles, maybe the next level wil reveal something to you that you never even imagined before
I sometimes get strong, upsetting feelings when I try to work out my less than pleasant emotions. I haven’t had anything like that happen for awhile though so maybe I’ve made peace with myself.
For me, I often find when I tell the truth I have the gut feeling that i’m blatantly lying to someone and when I tell a white lie I feel like I did the right thing… I just do my best to ignore it or in my head i’ll say the phrase, “Come on schizophrenia.”
I dated a woman who’s only episode had been that there was an invisible man holding her down and raping her at night, I believe her. She was hospitalized and diagnosed after throwing her mattress down a ten or fifteen story stairwell. Hadn’t had symptoms since other than being emotionally scarred by both this experience and an unusual childhood.
I have experienced everything you listed, especially the fake heart beats, they combine that with hot flashes and I get worried that they are affecting my blood pressure.
Yes, just when I think that I have overcame an obstacle and I feel good about myself, It seems like i’m being humbled with tactile hallucinations. I believe I was set up by the voices I use to hear. (I hear them every once in a while now.) And i’m being punished for something that happened almost 10 years ago. I know what it’s like to get tactile hallucinations and so you have my sympathy.
You haven’t done anything wrong!!! Whoever is hurting you needs to stop immediately! They have no right. Selah, do you have any spiritual beliefs?
yes, I do… I need healing like Mary Magdalene was healed way back when.
My voices have tried to punish me anytime I relapsed on drugs. They eventually realized it was pointless and quit trying to terrify me. I wonder if maybe God stepped in and said something to them. We live in America and do not torture people no matter how heinous the crime!! There is nothing in this world that you have ever done to deserve being hurt over.
Yeah it’s hard to understand but the voices punish me with tactile hallucinations to when I enjoy stuff like smoking or eating
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