So long as somebody works I will work and try to advance in Israel

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I remember the hopelessness quite well, actually. I also remember that it was a good swift kick to the seat of the pants by someone who cared for me that got me out of that negative zone and into the recovery zone. The longer he stays there, the more he damages himself, and the worse his prospect for recovery will be in the long run.

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I honestly cannot understand someone who screams in pain but says don’t help me. Ah I need help, but don’t help me. I’m so sick, but I don’t want help. Ahhh. I want help, but I don’t want it. And my parents agree

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So NOT the case. You sound and act like a screaming three year old.

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@shutterbug you are a borderline narcissistic person, you are not in a position to lecture anybody.

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That’s unfortunate, this means you’re turning your back on your best chance for recovery and independence, both financially and in terms of being able to live on your own.

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You want me to recover and I appreciate that.
Thank you for that.

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I really DO want you to recover. I hate seeing needless suffering from this illness. And I wouldn’t poke at you if I didn’t think you could. If I honestly think someone is hopeless, I ignore their posts. You CAN do it, but you’ll need to take the meds.

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You know you’re living your life in the 50’s as if there were no meds. I can only wonder why? And you hope for a cure? If there was a cure you’d never find it without taking meds.

I don’t want to be mean, but I roomed with a guy in psych ward who might have been sz. The reason he was there…, his parents couldn’t take care of him anymore. But they were nice and came to eat lunch with him a lot

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@moonwalker what do you want from me?
My thought insertion- the thoughts that go into my head- are very hostile
and so it has been since early childhood.
I believe that someone singled me out for destruction.
The thoughts that come to my head are very hostile.
That I am a zero in Israel, don’t have the right to work, study or do anything.
This is the approach I am dealing with, and my parents I believe also get hostile brainwashing
regarding me.
Hostile brainwashing is to blame nothing else.
It is funny because my parents are doing well.
It is possible that if I lived in a different country I would be doing better.

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@Erez_Shmerling I feel for your situation, but what I’d like to see is you making steps towards recovering. You may never be 100% but you can get much closer by working with drs and taking advantage of what is available to you. It’s very possible to sit there suffering while a better life is a phone call away. See a dr, try something different and get to be the best you can. Doing nothing is never a solution to anything

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@Moonwalker do you recommend that I go to a psychiatric hospital?

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@Erez_Shmerling I think that going to a psych hospital where you can be diagnosed asap (faster than a single Dr could) could be the best. Then when your done there they can set you up with a hospital approved out patient dr. I think that is the fastest way to get better. But any psych Dr would be a step in the right direction

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@Erez_Shmerling please let us know if you go. I’d love to cheer you on!

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Theyd need one of those jobs you want to get rid of in order to care for you…

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@frencheese not if the structure of society changes
In the future everyone will be provided for.

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Then you wont need anyone to take care of you.

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I can’t think, I can’t debate, just want to die.

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Is there someone you can call to talk to if youre feeling suicidal?

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Try some more/different meds for a longer period.

You may have noticed here, the high functioning people pretty much all take meds, many take quite a lot and have for many years.

Don’t let perfect be the enemy of pretty good. Maybe you won’t get 100% recovery right now, but wouldn’t you rather live with a partial recovery for the next 20 years or whatever it takes for a real cure to be developed, than to go on as you are now? Medicated or unmedicated, it’s gonna be a long wait.

Your thinking will probably improve if you aren’t having to deal with the intrusive thoughts as much, and meds can help that. CBT too, but for me, I can only participate if I have a med taking the edge off.

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