Should we just resign ourselves to our fate?

Whatever that may be. What will be will be. It’s the worrying about possibilities that makes for the intense anxiety .

Radical Acceptance.

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Don’t worry about worry, till worry worries you.

I’ve accepted I’m doomed. Everything will fall apart in time. The wheels will turn where they turn.

Too late. Worry is the curse on my back.

Are you a fortune teller that you can see that everything will fall apart in time?
http://cogbtherapy.com/cbt-blog/cognitive-distortion-fortune-telling

Ive said this before but u don’t actually have purpose ur only purpose is to exist and “ride the ride”. U can pretty much make ur own fate/destiny/meaning cause uve got around what we conceive as 80 years to do as much as u possibly can. Now Im not saying “whats going to happen is going to happen” isn’t true. Kanye’s famous. It happened end of story. But also observe how saying Kanye West and recognizing him as an icon seems “right.” And looking back on ur life when u really look at it the same feeling comes up. Almost like it was meant to be in a way. Now is that because it was actually meant to be or r we so accustomed to hearing the word Kanye that it just feels right. Idk thats not up to me but something to consider. But also if Kanye was meant to be famous wouldn’t that throw off the balance of life in a way. Wouldn’t it just way overcomplicate the system having to give meanings and purposes to everyone that comes into existence. If u were a God would creating people’s purposes for them be more interesting or see what they can do for themselves. But don’t take this as the absolute this is just my ■■■■■■■ (opinion). If u want to believe fate and destiny by all means more power to u, whatever gets u through this hell hole, but im just offering another point of view.

Now as to y such things as schizophrenia and genetic disorders exist. I have absolutely no hypothesis behind that.

@Skims I can’t see how it will be different than that.

How difficult would it be for your predicted outcome to occur? What are
all of the things that would have to go wrong for this prediction to
come true? Now, list as many things that might happen that would prevent
this prediction from happening. Then list the things you have control
over that you could use to influence the situation in your favor.

I move. I can’t get social housing. I end up in private housing. I’m evicted I end up on the streets. I move. I struggle to find my way around. I can’t get internet. I can’t get food. I move . I can’t cope. It all cascades downhill from there.

I guess what would prevent this would be my stepdaughter and granddaughters. However can they outwit fate? As for having control over anything; I just can’t see it.

“God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change
Courage to change the the things I can,
And the wisdom to know the difference”.

The Lords Prayer, said in most of the thousand 12-step meetings I’ve been too.

The words that comfort “hopeless addicts” who were sure they could never recover from addiction but often find that with hard work, luck, and perseverance they can recover from a “seemingly hopeless state of mind and body”.

Yes, I am aware that not every schizophrenic has a recovery in him. But the situation isn’t black and white. The average person, schizophrenic or not can accomplish some things in-life even though it looks hopeless at the time. If you (not you personally, firemonkey) sit around thinking you will be a lawyer or a doctor and get married and live happily ever after and it occupies your mind all day, then yes, maybe you should give up on the dream.
But it should be take on a case by case situation. When I first got sick, I saw no future. As far as I knew, I would never work again or live on my own or have a girlfriend. i felt I would be lucky if I didn’t kill myself or end up locked up in some insane asylum for the rest of my life.

But counselors and psychiatrists saw something in me that I didn’t see in myself and I ended up working for most of the past 33 years.You might know a little of my story. And now one of my great pleasures is inspiring some people with my story. I know some of your situation. I don’t know what you can do or what all your capabilities are but you must have a couple of strengths.

In my eyes my fate is that I will work for another ten years, and finish school and then retire and sit around reminiscing about my life and talking to my cool neighbors while sipping a bottle of coca-cola. That is what I’ve resigned myself to.

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It’s hard for me to see any. Certainly not practical strengths. Adjusting to changing circumstances is something I really struggle with. I currently have things set up to let me cope albeit in a fairly limited way.

The truth is I have very little faith in my ability to cope with a shift in circumstances. I guess it’s part of my latent dependant nature that with the current situation I’m heavily reliant on my stepdaughter etc from preventing me from going under. This is mixed with nagging doubts as to whether they will be able to do so.

It’'s the logistics of having to set up elsewhere that quite frankly scares the ■■■■ out of me. Getting things to run as smoothly as possible in a different place. If I can get all my ducks in a row re the practical day to day aspects of living in a new place then I’ll feel less anxious and insecure.

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Yeah, changes are hard. But like you say, once you get over the hurdle of moving into a new place than the anxiety will go down. Moving is one of the most stressful thing in life for anybody. But when I made a move two years ago my stress was through the roof. But people told me the the stress would die down in a couple of months and they were absolutely correct. Maybe you can turn this anxiety of moving around and look at some positive aspects of a move. There must be a couple of good things at least. A new place, a new start.

If I can get past the teething troubles then a positive would be having family nearer at hand. It would mean more hands on support and less isolation. My stepdaughter works for a care firm and has some dealings with psychiatric services. She has already said she would come to appointments with me and would fight my corner re more support.

One thing she intends to set up is someone to clean the place I’ll be living in. This is something I really struggle with.

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What exactly does that mean @skims? My doc hit me with that a few months ago.

Trust your step-daughter, she sounds like she has a good head on her shoulders. She only wants good things for you. My advice is to not take her for granted and co-operate with her and listen carefully to what she has to say. And be sure to thank her for her help of course. As schizophrenics, we have too few people who really want the best for us, so don’t take your step-daughter for granted.

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