Did you do drugs before you had Sz? I notice a lot of people in this forum have and I’m wondering if it’s possible to get it without having done drugs. Also curious as to whether the fact that you had or hadn’t affects to how bad it is for you
Is it okay to talk about this? I have a reaponse but i know the mods dont want us to discuss drugs/alcohol in some context
hey,
Drugs are common in society…
I didn’t do drugs regularly till I was diagnosed with manic depression. After that it was a daily thing till I hit psychosis.
Street drugs are terrible for psychosis…terrible for most people depending on the drug. Saying that. Alcohol and cigarettes impact negatively upon our population more than most things.
I think dropping acid helped with psychosis and it’s aftermath…but it’s all just chemical games…it’s smoke and mirrors and for schizophrenics it’s a dead end.
Rogueone.
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I’m not looking to glorify it and like discuss what drugs and everything. I’m just curious as to how that has affected people. Honestly what I’m most curious about is to as whether you can develop it without drug use. That’s what I’m most curious about. Ive seen a very good amount of people on here mention drug use before the diagnosis
I’ve done a lot of drugs. Ask me anything.
hey,
We are 1% …that is with or without drugs…it’s probably leaned towards others as I say…drugs are all through our culture and alcohol and cigarettes are stable drugs for a fair few schizophrenics.
It’s not indicitive…it probably makes you psychotic quicker…but whether it’s a causal agent is another thing!
Rogueone.
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Never had the peer group interaction to get into anything like cannabis. Nearest I got was someone saying in hospital cough medicine gave him a buzz. I tried it . It didn’t do anything so I soon gave that up.
I had symptoms as a child.
I was a weirdo child.
Had apathy,I was surviving and my energy was not in my own body.
I had agony and suffered immensely and was bullied and never fit in anywhere.
But did take drugs before diagnosis of schizophrenia.
Not daily.
But I was diagnosed post traumatic stress before then.
I believe I was molested and raped and abused etc
The current mainstream hypothesis is that drugs can quicken the onset of schizophrenia, but not cause the illness. So all those people who did drugs before getting ill probably would have ended up with sz anyway, just a bit later. I did drugs before developing psychosis. It’s not that strange that people do drugs when they are suffering with poor mental health.
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I think the way I drank played a role in the onset of my sz. I’d start in the morning, and before the evening was over I would have drank over thirty beers. I’d go for several days like that, and then have a serious case of the shakes and a serious hangover. One time I was sobering up after a hard drunk, and I somehow figured out through my brilliant insight that both the U.S. and Russia had launched their nuclear missiles, and we had about thirty minutes before they would land. I was wondering if it would do any good to crawl under the bed. This one pdoc told me that ten per cent of the drinkers in the U.S. drink ninety per cent of the alcohol. Alcoholics can consume huge amounts of alcohol.
i was on Tofranil for a false diagnosis of ADD which I later found out had a black box warning for those with schizophrenia. My last use of the drug was an overdose followed by tossing the rest in the trash. I was suicidal at that point with the voices very much roaring in my head. I wasn’t thinking rationally obviously and i reasoned that my suicide attempt was an effort to sleep instead and if I waited a little longer I may have let the voices talk me into just throwing the bottle in the trash without taking the overdose. It probably made the situation worse although I think (as I found out later) I actually took an amount which is the highest allowed dose for a day’s time with the drug so it could have been fatal if I took more. However the amount of antivert I took along with it probably was an overdose (antivert prevented dizziness with the drug). I also took a dose of propanol I had been prescribed later on when I really started to feel sick (forgot what it was but i think it had to do with blood pressure which I had been prescribed from my first trip to the hospital which occurred because the voices were “in the walls” and I didn’t recognize they were in my head yet. I was kicked out of that hospital because I refused to bathe, didn’t mention the voices in the wall, and failed to give my insurance information correctly (when you go to college you don’t necessarily think something like that will happen) and the wrong phone number for my room.
I smoked weed drom 22 to 35 regularly and the voices didn’t start until I stopped
I drank a lot in my youth, but was never into drugs, lots of trauma as a child though
Did weed a bit as a teenager but not much. Only really got into drugs when I started to become ill.
Yes, I think that most sz didn’t use drugs.
HELL YES.
Also, yes. There are people here who have SZ who didn’t touch the stuff.
I was intially given a poor prognosis and told I wouldn’t function well enough to care for myself or live on my own, but I am. I know non-drug users with SZ who don’t function as well as I do.
The one thing I have noticed, and this is anecdotal, is that the long-term drug users generally have cognitive challenges. I’m not certain if it’s because they take an IQ hit from the drug use, or it’s just that people who are dumber to start with are attracted to the stuff. However, meet a long-term drug user in their fifties and it’s pretty obvious they’re not the sharpest tools in the shed.