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Mitoclorians

#1

I pointed out to a friend that when I make my diet pristine, as I happen to have been doing for the past couple of weeks - ther’s no carbs in there, zero, there’s no protein, it’s an all vegetable and fats diet, no sugar, I’ve documented it before on youtube - that when I do that, people respond to it, mainly women.

It’s a striking change.

When I was a teenager, I couldn’t figure out what women wanted, and pretty much accepted that whateverit was i didn’t have it, fliritng was rare or non existent, me all sz and autisitc and isolated and evil and acne’s, living on junk food.

Now that i have learned about diet, it’s amazing, they walk up to me in public places and start conversations, they look like they are about to have an orgasm after 5 to 10 minutes of my manic ranting.

I pointed this phenomenon out and he has seen it; he says that’s the mitoclorians, some kind of creatures in your gut that create the “force” from start wars that you want it to be “with you”.

So i guess this is a psychosis, straight outta star wars, and I’m getting more and more delusional every time a woman starts fliriting with me for no reason.

I am against flirting and don’t participate, just take the opportunity to display unreality and freak people out,

but i wish i had known way back when i was a kid, when i was interested in that kinda thing.

who knew, what women are looking for is the “force”, and that it’s based on extreme dietary restrictions.

-(W) onderdonk (ey)

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#2

I have seen your youtube presentation. I like it. It has given me something to think about.

It reminded me of the prologue of “Waldon” from Henry David Thoreau on how he could get the bad influences out of his diet and live with more serenity. I do like how he said that whole thing about sugar.

There are too many wars and too much slavery in the world for me to indulge in sugar. I have no need of this political commodity. By taking out that extravagance out of my diet I can live simply and in peace.

I have a feeling you know this Waldon quote far better then I. (I am just making a quick paraphrase of his theory.)

Thank you.

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#3

But who knows? When Thoreau went to live frugally in a cabin in the woods, he also went into town to eat lunch with his mother pretty much daily.

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#4

i should point out why i really do it;
i developed this diet as a cure for what pdocs call
“tactile hallucinations”, but from what I’ve discovered,
they have zero understanding of the mechanics
creating these “hallucinations”; rather, it’s some
kind fof allergy or extreme sensitivity.

so i cured myself, but i don’t really like being cured,
just need relief from time to time from the incessant itching…

No, the real reason for the extreme restrictive diet:
it’s like a few hundred calories a day, ridiculously low,
but I adapt well and can maintain for several weeks…

ah but what happens then? soon?

I flip the swithc, present the body with lee shan oolong tea,
followed by massive doses of carbs, sugar, and calories -
I bounce from a few weeks at 400 a day
to a couple of weeks at 7 to 10 thousand calories a day

( two entrees in a restaurant at a time, 3 times a day,
plus snacks from whole foods - superfood stuff.)

The mind goes more manic from that blast
than any drug I’ve ever taken -
I don’;t sleep for a few days,
cause i don’t wanna see the bugs;

instead i go in the backyard and talk to the moon,
the stars, the sky, the universe.

and oh the stuff they teach me!!!

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#5

I don’t know about the mitoclorians but order 66 is real.

Gotta keep them down, can’t have peace running rampant now can we.

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#6

I’ve been holding this delusion for a couple of years now, ever since I started noticing the women’s reaction to my dieting.

Today I saw this article in new scientist (I have a subscription so instead of a link guess I’ll just paste it here)

Psychobiotics: How gut bacteria mess with your mind
29 January 2014 by John Cryan and Timothy Dinan
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For similar stories, visit the Micro-organisms , The Big Idea and Mental Health Topic Guides

Gut bugs can change the way our brains work, offering new ways to relieve problems like stress, anxiety and depression, say two leading professors

Leader: “Counting the hidden victims of medicine”

WE HAVE all experienced the influence of gut bacteria on our emotions. Just think how you felt the last time you had a stomach bug. Now it is becoming clear that certain gut bacteria can positively influence our mood and behaviour. The way they achieve this is gradually being uncovered, raising the possibility of unlocking new ways to treat neurobehavioural disorders such as depression and obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD).

We acquire our intestinal microbes immediately after birth, and live in an important symbiotic relationship with them. There are far more bacteria in your gut than cells in your body, and their weight roughly equals that of your brain. These bacteria have a vast array of genes, capable of producing hundreds if not thousands of chemicals, many of which influence your brain. In fact, bacteria produce some of the same molecules as those used in brain signalling, such as dopamine, serotonin and gamma-aminobutyric acid (GABA). Furthermore, the brain is predominantly made of fats, and many of these fats are also produced by the metabolic activity of bacteria.

In the absence of gut bacteria, brain structure and function are altered. Studies of mice reared in a germ-free environment, with no exposure to bacteria, show that such mice have alterations in memory, emotional state and behaviour. They show autistic patterns of behaviour, spending as much time focusing on inanimate objects as on other mice. This behavioural change is driven by alterations in the underlying brain chemistry. For example, dramatic changes in serotonin transmission are seen, together with changes in key molecules such as brain-derived neurotrophic factor, which plays a fundamental role in forming new synapses.

These findings give weight to the notion of probiotics – bacteria with a health benefit. Probiotics were first proposed by Russian biologist Élie Metchnikoff who, in the early 1900s, observed that people living in a region of Bulgaria who consumed fermented food tended to live longer. However, it now seems that certain bacteria – dubbed psychobiotics – might have a mental-health benefit, too.

Although the field of psychobiotics is in its infancy, there are already promising signs. Last year, for instance, researchers from the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena showed that when the bacterium Bacteroides fragilis was given early in life, it corrected some of the behavioural and gastrointestinal deficits in a mouse model of autism. And previous reports indicate that Bifidobacterium infantis is effective in an animal model of depression.

How exactly do gut bacteria influence the brain? The mechanisms are becoming clear. The bacterium Lactobacillus rhamnosus, which is used in dairy products, has potent anti-anxiety effects in animals, and works by changing the expression of GABA receptors in the brain. These changes are mediated by the vagus nerve, which connects the brain and gut. When this nerve is severed no effect on anxiety or on GABA receptors is seen following psychobiotic treatment with L. rhamnosus.

L. rhamnosus has also been shown to alleviate OCD-like behaviours in mice. Interestingly, this bacterium not only alters GABA receptors in the brain but has been shown to synthesise and release GABA. Other evidence supports the view that gut bacteria may influence the brain in routes other than the vagus nerve – by altering the immune system and via the manufacture of short-chain fatty acids, for example.

Just as certain genes render bacteria pathogenic, it is likely that clusters of genes within gut bacteria provide mental health benefits. However, the essential genes for effective psychobiotics have yet to be established. It may be that, in the future, the ideal psychobiotic will be a genetically modified organism containing genes from several different bacteria.

In the meantime, cocktails of bacteria are likely to be more effective than single strains in producing health benefits. For example, a 2011 study showed that a combination of Lactobacillus helveticus and Bifidobacterium longum reduced anxiety and depressive symptoms in healthy volunteers. A 2013 neuroimaging study showed that a fermented milk product containing four different probiotic bacteria was associated with the reduced response of a brain network involved in the processing of emotion and sensation. And certain strains of bacteria can reduce the symptoms of irritable bowel syndrome, a common stress-related disorder of the brain-gut axis. This is probably achieved through a reduction in levels of the “stress hormone” cortisol and of inflammatory molecules produced by the immune system.

These findings are promising, but we are still a long way from the development of clinically proven psychobiotics and it remains to be seen whether they are capable of acting like – or perhaps even replacing – antidepressants. At a time when prescriptions for antidepressants have reached record levels, effective natural alternatives with fewer side effects would be welcome. We are currently completing a study of the gut microbiota in people with severe depression. If we find consistent alterations, this will provide a strong rationale for targeting depression with a suitable psychobiotic. We are also about to start a placebo-controlled study of Lactobacillus brevis in treating anxiety in healthy volunteers

We must, however, sound a note of caution. Despite marketing claims to the contrary, most putative probiotics have no psychobiotic activity. Until recently, lax regulation in both the US and the European Union allowed manufacturers to make outlandish claims without supporting data. This situation is changing and will protect consumers from fraudulent marketing, but the reality is that only a small percentage of bacteria tested have positive neurobehavioural effects. Some bacteria fail to survive storage in the health food store or are eliminated by acidity in the stomach. Even if they do survive gut transit, they may be devoid of health benefits.

In the 20th century, the major focus of microbiological research was on finding ways to kill microbes via antibiotics. This century the focus has changed somewhat, with a recognition of the health benefits of bacteria, not just from an immunity perspective but from a mental health one. Today, in richer nations, the impact of stress on health is perhaps as great as the threat from harmful bacteria. Psychobiotics have enormous potential.

This article appeared in print under the headline “A light on psychobiotics”

Microbiota with personality

The transplantation of faecal microbes (FMT) from a healthy individual into a recipient has emerged as an effective treatment for life-threatening Clostridium difficile infection. The success of this approach has focused attention on FMT to treat gastrointestinal, immune and metabolic disorders, but could FMT be useful in treating neuropsychiatric conditions too?

Intriguingly, a 2011 study by researchers in Canada showed that anxious mice have different microbiota compared with normal mice, and that transplantation of their microbiota into the normal mice makes the normal mice anxious – and vice versa.

If such effects can be translated to humans they have marked implications for development of microbial-based therapies for mental disorders. It also means that would-be FMT donors may need to be screened for mental health issues as well as infectious disease.

so I do buy all the available probiotics, and the digestive enzymes, but what I personally find really has all the effect on the mind is not what I add but what i take away - all sugar, all carbs, even most protein cause it’s work for the liver, I just “vape beef”, (my roomate “vapes” pot and nicotine" instead of smoking, so when I sip oxtail liquid soup, I tell him I’m vaping beef), but yeah, starve a little and drink a gallon of water a day and the only stuff going down for several days is vegetables and fats. The mitoclorians light up brighter, and the dogs and the birds and the women flock around a fire like this

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#7

Star Wars is a pretty good movie.

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#8

Your health is transparent. If you feel good, people see it in your face. The same thing happens to me only its with guys.

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