That made me cough up my smoke 
That might actually be an improvement. Roll with it.
Pixel.
And the tit for tat system is not the same as the Christian system that teaches to turn the other cheek and repay hostility and hatred with kindness and love.
I think weāre all inept. We all (when I say all I mean women, I donāt know about guys) freak out when the guy who we like talks to us and we decide to do our best meatwad (from aquateen hugerforce) imitation a liiiiittttlllle too early in the course of knowing each other. We all donāt text back because weāre afraid that weāll look stupid if we text back right away. We all go over everything that was said and everything that happened with all of our friends. None of us have any clue what weāre doing.
I also think that everyone is at least a little repressed.
So some Christian parents would give negative reinforcement for behaviors that are beneficial to survival (like taking interest in oneās appearance to be attractive, standing oneās ground and defending oneās self if wronged, etc). No one actually follows it to the letter, but I think it can be misguiding for some kids who should be encouraged to develop certain characteristics that under a strict form of Christianity would not necessarily be considered positive/virtues. Iām not advocating being a barbarian or gangster is the right way by this, so donāt get me wrong.
How many Christians do you know? And I donāt mean that in a bad way. Where I am for most people not being Christian is like being a woman and wearing something other than dresses before the 1900ās. It just isnāt done by ārespectableā adults.
Iāve also found that I know one or two Christians that I wouldnāt have realized were Christian because they arenāt in my face about converting me. Iām not particularly Christian, my ideas on God and faith are still under construction after an almost life time of illness but I hate the way āChristiansā are down here. Itās a faith, not a fan club and most of the people Iām around canāt seem to tell the difference.
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I really donāt want to make this personal. Do you get at all what I am saying about negative reinforcement towards certain behaviors that are beneficial to survival and how that could misguide some kids and affect them later on in development? I think the appropriate question is how many non-Christian people do you know? 
A christian is a label that any human being can obtain by meeting the easy criteria. Drug addicts, sex addicts, killers, psychopaths, wolfs in sheeps clothing, your every day average joe, ceoās. Now a days at least from my experince, every one is a high horse holy rolling, holy ghost proffesing, bible thumping child of god. Sending looks down on others that dont meet there standards and less educated on bible while they try to cover there skeletons.
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Iām wondering how I would measure up in this conversation? Honest opinions are appreciated.
@Daimon Kenforce ^ just said it better than I did about Christians.
But no, I agree with you. I actually know three people intimately that Iāve had a faith talk with (I like to talk about God when I get to know someone well because Iām trying to build my own belief system). One of them believed that rocks had healing powers and worships the universe, and two atheists. The people that I know are atheists that I havenāt had an in depth talk about it with is a whole section of my family. The fact that they didnāt come to church came up and it was left there. Iāve been starting to normalize for six years now and I only have about one or two friends at a time so thatās a maximum of twelve people.
The question I ask myself is how many true Christians do I know.
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What he said doesnāt really apply because I am specifically talking about the Ned Flanders stereotypical brand of Christianity that is very strict and not households that are just Christian by name. Do you guys get where I am coming from now?
You never know. Flanders was christian, but you never know what happens behind closed doors.
Yeah I think I get you now. I donāt know any ned flanders though.
Heās the one Simpsons character I wish I could meet though. Everyone ā ā ā ā ā up as parents. Like one person said: āMy only goal is to not cause them to have to go to therapy.ā
Forget Ned Flanders then. Do you know anyone who was raised in a very strict and sheltering Christian fanatic household? Based on my experience, it is not the healthiest, nourishing environment.
No, not really. I think you might be thinking something closer to the lines of a cult. Some cults claim to be Christian. I had a boyfriend once who was in a cult when he was younger. It messed him and his brother up.
Iām talking very strict Catholic (some would call this a cult). lol
I know but I donāt know strict catholic. The whole K branch of my family is very, very catholic. My cousin M (heās my dadās age, I really like and respect him) wanted to become a priest but the church wouldnāt let him and he became a teacher. He never married or, to my knowledge, dated anyone. What the church let happen to those kids just killed him and I think he broke with the church. Both my Great Aunts were very strict Catholics and prayed all the mysteries every day (I think it was the mysteries. All I know is cousin P went to pray with them one day and he got up after one and was ready to go and they said where are you going we have seven {?} more. He said he knees got sore).
What messed them up was that my great grandfather was a drunk. They never got married because of what sort of husband my great grandfather was. My Grandmother never drank and she doesnāt like it when her kids and grandkids drink.
Mine was and I was deeply religious in high school. We had 2 pediphilic priests in my area and I sometimes think itās my fault.
Iād imagine it was less damaging for people to be raised this way a long time ago like what you people are talking about than it was for some of my peer group currently in their twenties.