Is there hope?

33 years old. yes, maybe i need another med

Well u r ten years younger than me
Or maybe you need higher dose?

now,i had panic attacks on big doses. you think its possible for the med?

I’ve never heard of leponex
Don’t know if meds cause panic attacks
Is leponex an antipsychotic?
Maybe u would benefit from antidepressant

Leponex is Clozapine, just a brand name in Europe.

I’m on clozapine myself it doesn’t cause panic for me
But I still have bouts paranoia and crap

Anna what dose u on?

i spent this evening walking form lef to right nervously. i really feel like i am dying. i’ve tried 400 mg of leponex and hade more panic. now i am on 150 mg,
anyone who thinks that some aps can cause panic in a more sensible persons? or maybe its that i make a bad reaction because its too soon to be effective?

I think 4 months is enough to see some progress… and I would look for another psychiatrist and get a second assessment. Cloz / Leponex doesn’t seem to me to be the best way to deal with sz with neg symptoms. I would suggest looking into Abilify arapiprasole or Latuda lurasidone, at least for a month or two to see if one of them can lift you up a bit. (Not sure of the brand names in Europe, but I just gave your the generic names of each one.)

Likewise, I would say that the beta blockers may be adding to the neg symptoms, and that the sympathetic autonomic pitch (that results in the cardiac dysrhythmia you’re dealing with due to the anxiety) could better be reduced by other means. But don’t suddenly stop taking them until better solutions are found (see below).

I would definitely look into this: Sarcosine Reduces Symptoms in Schizophrenia

I’d also look into getting psychotherapeutic help to knock down the cycle of thoughts, feelings and behaviors I’m pretty sure is contributing to the anxiety and depression you have described.

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notmoses, ive switched really fast form 250 mg to 150 mg of leponex. can be this the reason of my panic attacks? i ve really thought that i will die there is one hour… i have tachycardia yes…ive tried abilify,it gives me anxiety also and make me irritable. there is no latuda where i am. and maybe my negatives symptoms the cause is my paranoia and this anxiety thinking of mine. sometimes i am really worried

Absolutely YES. That’s too much de-titration too fast on that particular med for most pts. I’ll throw a Jackson on the table for withdrawal effects.

No big surprise there. (It’s nature of that molecule.) Latuda is still expensive (though heading toward generic status in what, two years?) but may provide the prop under the autonomic downforce typical of most Da-blocking anti-Ps you need. That said, Cloz is a really dandy med if you can handle the long list of prominent sfx.

I would suggest moving back up to 200 mgs to see if you get some relief from the anxiety at that level. And try your best not to use benzodiapzepines (like Ativan lorazepam or Klonopin clonazepam) for the anxiety unless you just have to because of the sine waves they set off that will induce more withdrawal effects with continued use. Likewise, try to stay off caffeine, chocolate, alcohol and sleeping aids other than melatonin… as those also have potential to induce rebound effects.