People talk about stigmatizing schizophrenia and people say it is part spiritual or all spiritual, this is what I call stigmatizing the Diagnoses.
That’s a good point because those people that do say it’s spiritual come across delusional to those that are not aware that most people with sz are really unsure about their disorder.
I’ve noticed some on here say stuff about it being spiritual but it seems they theorizing about it trying to understand.
Like Daimon says he thinks it’s spiritual but at the same time he’s open to other people’s theories.
People who do well with schiz , I say good luck to them. Unfortunately some tend to think once they get better they have all the answers for every person with the condition. The condition and symptoms vary from person to person. My opinion is that a person constructs their belief and values system more often than not to make themselves feel better. And as it goes, something that makes one person happy , is not guaranteed to make the next person happy.
I’ll chime in here and I’ll speak for myself.
I would up on this site because I was googling spiritual emergency. A relationship with a girl with botderline personality disorder pushed me over the edge and into psychosis that lasted from varying degrees for over a year. At first I didn’t understand what was gong on and was in denial thay it could be anything with schizo anything up until a month back. I didn’t go to a doctor because I was afraid of being imprisoned forever. Not only that but I wasnt sure if I was Alive or dead and was under the impressions i was already dead and was experiencing a life review.
I didn’t really make anything up to view it in a better light. What happened is I would all of a sudden know something and when I looked it up and the images that appeared in mental flashes and dreams or when I drew what I was feeling then looked up the thing I just knew or the images they ended up being ancient religious symbols and the myths attached to symbols were the same one I just knew. I would also see the same myth appear in every culture with different variations and the symbols too. But all that research came a few weeks after i had a vision and all of a sudden just knew a mythic framework thT was the basis for all religions. Then I would just remember words symbols and images from different points in history when I questioned if I was delusional and when I began the research I found that every single time what I remembered was accurate. The events did in fact happen and it flowed in a stream of synchronicity. I can see how the main myth had been manipulated by various religions for political reasons and just drift over time from dogma rather than influx from genuine Mystics.
further research revealed that in traditional cultures it was people who experienced paychosis that were trained as the shamans. Even in Tibet their is a seer who flies into trance and is a very respected part of their society. He was trained to navigate through that realm by another seer. The things as is it is hard to break through the dogmatic fixations of the paradigm of the culture we exist in. But other older cultures still have living traditions of how to self heal psychosis and learn to harness it to help heal others. The thing standing in then way of accepting this and learning from them because they are the real experts is prejudice and ignorance.
But I really think that in many cases the real problem is a cultural one. The people that have been through psychosis and self healed are afraid to speak out for fear of stigmatization and having their discoveries being dismissed. This is one of the reasons they waited like 40 years after the death of carl Jung to publish the red book.
Plato heard voices too. Where do you think his idea for the allegory and the cave came from?
Socrates heard voices from what he believed was a “daimon”.
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My psychosis and that of a shaman is very different.
I had my mind taken and i was tortured, thats all that it really was.
My second they even led me to a pyramid out in nowhere on my way to see pan on the beach, within my thoughts they began trying to get me to commit suicide at the top.
I still believe all my symptoms from schizophrenia could be caused by no persons doings or any other existances doings.
Just from a condition I have that makes me feel things, hear things see things that are not caused by any existance at all.
Just caused by the condition I have called Schizophrenia.
There are some that believe schizophrenia can be part of an awaking to spiritual consciousness. A door to or the 3rd eye is open to things and yes some are awful and torturous.
I am a believer in the spiritual realm. I have studied a lot about science and spirituality and religion. I believe there is a huge part of this that is due spiritual attacks. I know this doesn’t align with the medical theories or the overall gist of this website. So I hope I am allowed to express this opinion here.
For me personally it is about growth and overcoming in peaceful ways the trials and tribulations I face. Peace to you all. May you find healing.
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