Is it really possible to logic yourself out of a delusion?

He just had mild sz, you cant cure true sz without meds. I battled positive symptoms for 2 years when unmedicated, it just got worse. And before sz I was top of my classes 95+% average in organic chemistry, math, physics. I was invited many times by teachers to win money 10 000$ in math competitions.

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You can use reason of sorts to come to insight but the reality testing thing is often misguided imo. And insight does only do so much for our problems.

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Logic can’t help. for example : I feel that I am watched by many cameras in my house . I know that logic says no, it’s not possible . Who cares about logic when you start fearing and panicking

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My therapist would interpret my delusions. I could accept her interpretation and I really could understand her way of thinking, but deep down I know my delusion is absolutely true

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Thats what I mean, you can reality test it and perhaps even think of it as delusional, but our problems need not stop just because of that. Goes to show that the superficial conceptions of delusion only apply to superficial delusions.

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But wouldn’t that partial release from the grip of delusion at least contribute to rendering the delusion behaviourally inert? (of course many delusions are inert to start with).
Also, what about the reverse, could being good at masking your symptoms, double-booking, remaining more or less functional weaken the incentive to get better upon gaining some initial insight?

Yet you often seen pretty rational in the way you discuss your delusions.

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I used logic to recognize my delusions.

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An approach I used while I still believed I was being watched, was to accept being under surveillance, and, so to speak, learn to live in the spotlight (ie. with the world’s eyes focussed on me!). I did things to try to trigger a reaction from the people (or organisations) that were watching me, but it never worked, of course, because it was just a delusion. This provided me with important insight, to help me leave the paranoia behind.

-A.

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Ok, but it was meds that helped you. Someone without meds can’t get out of delusions so easily. The only way to go get out of a delusion, for me, is to get attached to another delusion and leave the previous behind, forgetting it or remembering it deep in my heart

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I was only on meds intermittently. As far as I could tell, they didn’t have much (if any) of an effect either way.

I’m not saying meds don’t work or that they don’t matter. For some they work wonders, and for some, they produce only adverse effects.

-A.

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