I think I belong in jail…

@anon84628834 . It’s not about mental illness doing crimes. You don’t need one to do simple crimes. Please respect the audience. We are a marginalised subgroup anyways and we are too represented in jails for sure but it’s not the whole story.

You are wrong on that one for sure.

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@anon84628834 I used to get in trouble with the police a lot when I was a kid

Since they diagnosed me with mental illness, I have found healthier ways to interact with society

I do disagree on that, I think all crimes come forth from being mentally ill. Whether either temporary or chronic. Abnormal behaviour is, according to the mental health standards, considered being ill. Even though I do not agree with all clinical judgements, it is what the DSM literature says. But I leave it at this, no point in discussing it further as then the thread goes off topic, and I don’t want that.

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It’s a poor understanding of a mental illness. And please. Not the place to share interviews with psycopaths. May interest you but consider your audience. We have enough bad thoughts here with the whole mental illness thing. I respect your decision to not fight on it so we’ll leave it there.

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Am I a psychopath?

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No. I think that post was entirely inappropriate and I removed a post accordingly. Your young. You need to work through your issues with your treatment team and develop some patience. I’m 52. I spend a lot of time where I have space in my life. I cultivate patience nowadays.

I haven’t god therapy yet

I really think you need a therapist. It can’t be easy living with the feeling you belong in jail.

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I have urges to commit crimes so don’t I belong in jail

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In my book you don’t belong in jail for thinking or having the urge of a crime. Only if you act upon the urges.

But I think you’re in a stressful situation and need treatment to deal with these urges.

Have you discussed your worries with a professional?

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Not yet. I have an appointment with a nurse on Monday

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I think talking about it might help. I wish you the courage to do so.

Good luck!

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You don’t come across as a psychopath. At all. I’d easily put my money on you not being one.

A few random thoughts:

  • Fantasies of hurting other people are common. Citing: “in fact, research suggests that the vast majority of adult men admit to having had at least one homicidal thought and women, although to a slightly lower degree, aren’t far behind. Sixty percent of teen boys also acknowledge at least one murderous fantasy, joined by about a third of teen girls.” You aren’t abnormal in that respect. The more you obsess over them, the more they will increase, I suspect.

  • Do you just think such things when pissed off at someone, or do you elaborately work out the fantasies and carefully plan on how to make them reality? Do you feel there is a genuine risk of acting on them?

  • This doesn’t make you a bad person. But in all three cases: seek help. Seek therapy. In the latter two more urgently than the first. How can you get therapy? You have been here quite a long time I think, and nobody has given you therapy in the meanwhile. Be assertive in this. Ask others to be assertive for you.

  • Can you figure out when and why they come up? I for instance can have very mean thoughts in a period I feel dominated and humiliated by others a lot. When I feel powerless. It brings up old pain. Being better at setting boundaries helps. As does processing and acknowledging past hurts. And taking my distance from hurtful people. I also can get hyperaroused by bad lifestyle (too little structure, bad diet, too much sensory overload). Adjusting this helps too. But that’s me.

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They come up when I’m angry

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Also they only want me to go to occupational therapy - they haven’t offered me real talk therapy

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See the above numbers. A huge percentage of people admits to having creepy fantasies when angry. In anonymous research. They will rarely admit this to your face, because they too are ashamed. In a period I felt horrible, and some people treated me very badly, I had thoughts about them that scared me a lot. I’ve never acted on them, obviously, so my thoughts didn’t hurt them. They did make me feel like a bad person. It was important to do something with it. I never have such thoughts now, because I feel better and took my distance from the people who aroused these thoughts in me.

I think you are smart? Could you seek out a therapy in your vicinity that you would feel good about? And specificly ask to be referred, and explain why this is important to you?

I’m not smart but idk if I can seek therapy cuz they’re busy here
I think I would commit a crime if I wasn’t caught. I think I’m a shitty person

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People are always ‘busy’. I think you need to make it clear: ‘I need help now’.

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And I think you are not. I think you have psychological problems, that you should be helped with. No matter how busy they are. Demand help. Be strong in this, or they will not listen.

What makes you feel you could commit a crime?

I don’t need to be hospitalized so idk what kind of help they can offer

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