hi to all,how do you do? 
so the news is that I am still doing fine without meds, its my 5th day since I am neuro free… I have my fears but I am decided to fight them alone… cause the meds never didn’t help me,i was feeling really abnormal things on the neuros and don’t tell me to try anything else,i did tried them all :(…
sometimes I get still headaches and I am close to vomiting. in these moments I don’t have energy etc… did you got this also? what could be the reason-depression or my schizophrenia?
take care
Withdrawal probably.
Did you talk to your pdoc about this or did you quit cold turkey? It’s probably withdrawals.
After my Haldol was stolen and I went two weeks without it since I had to wait for the pharmacy to be able to fill it again and Medicaid pay for it. Anyway I woke up with the worse headaches imaginable, so my guess it’s probably the withdrawal.
Try Charlotte’s Web Hemp Oil. It’s a dietary supplement shipped legally to all 50 states. Several people I saw got fast headache / nausea relief. http://www.theroc.us
Boring clinical reports:
"Cannabis-based medicinal extracts used in … chronic nonmalignant neuropathic pain patients may provide effective analgesia (pain relief)"
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/25635955/?i=4&from=cannabidiol%20headache
Additive treatments including cannabidiol (CBDs) for sz are “promising agents”-
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/25866122/?i=7&from=cannabidiol%20analgesic
Cannabidiol reduces nausea
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/11973447/?i=7&from=cannabidiol%20non%20interfere%20with%20analgesic
Only explore HIGH-CBD cannabis (Charlottes Web or liquid ACDC) – NOT “medical marijuana” (that’s too vague a classification).
If you’re on sz.com THC is NOT good.
Much better comprehensive no-sales info here:
http://bipolarhealthgroup.com/pain-relief/
I hope that helps!
I am afraid its a bit of my schizo in fact…I am afraid to deteriorate one day… but I am almost sure that meds don’t help me, I really was suffering on them,i can count my side effects on them but I am tired now :(…
in fact,i am afraid of others, afraid of the madness and mostly of mad people… how to get over this? can I do it alone? by starting to love myself at first? somebody told me that I should be more kind to myself,this could work I think… I never hallucinated in fact but I have my demons yes and my monstrous fears…fear to get in conflicts, I am so closed 
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the other thing that I do is that I try to control myself…and notto feel guilt anymore…what a life…for the moment, I don’t believe in meds for me anymore. they screwed me,really…I dream of love etc which I try to control also :/…I am a mess but what can I do with myself now? this head is hurting me…do you believe that I cando it alone?omg…
Sometimes they prescribe Clozoril to people who have treatment resistant schizophrenia, although I refuse to take that over my current AP.
Now I often wonder if schizophrenia is caused by altering the effect of chemicals like dopermine in the brain and the antipsychotics work by correcting this is their a point at which point does this self correct!
Or is it something like diabetes where by you have to take medication to stabilise those and possibly for the rest of my life or till something better comes along!
I tried clozaril also… it was hell,i was more paranoid on it than my illness in itself… I am not sure if I need meds tommiez… I just don’t know what ill do if I deteriorate but probably I shouldn be afraid… I never was antimeds, they just make me worse really… I don’t hallucinate,i am just paranoid and frustrated,angry,sad…
You could go the therapy or top up therapy route?
Hmm. And double hmmmm.
I don’t blame you. The (geographical) world you live in isn’t the best place to be for one with the problems you have described on this forum. I hope that you will be able to find someone in your family or among your friends there who has sufficient sophistication + strength of character to locate a treatment team there that can…
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Get a copy of these books, read them and have your family read them, as well. (Torrey can be a bit totalistic and unwilling to see exceptions to his “rules” at times, but most of his book is really worth the effort to plough through.)
http://www.amazon.com/Surviving-Schizophrenia-6th-Edition-Family/dp/0062268856
http://www.amazon.com/The-Complete-Family-Guide-Schizophrenia/dp/1593851804/ref=as_sl_pc_tf_til?tag=schizophren0c-20&linkCode=w00&linkId=XKLY6NWSWJSQ3VYN&creativeASIN=1593851804 -
Get properly diagnosed by a board-certified psychopharmacologist who specializes in the psychotic disorders. One can find them at…
http://doctor.webmd.com/find-a-doctor/specialty/psychiatry andhttps://psychiatrists.psychologytoday.com/rms/
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Work with that “psychiatrist” (or “p-doc”) to develop a medication formula that stabilizes their symptoms sufficiently so that they can tackle the psychotherapy that will disentangle their thinking.
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The best of the psychotherapies for that currently include…
DBT – http://behavioraltech.org/resources/whatisdbt.cfm
MBSR – Welcome to the Mindful Living Blog
MBCT - Mindfulness-based cognitive therapy: theory and practice - PubMed
ACT – ACT | Association for Contextual Behavioral Science
10 StEP – Pair A Docks: The 10 StEPs of Emotion Processing
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the even newer somatic psychotherapies like…
MBBT – An Introduction to Mind-Body Bridging & the I-System – New Harbinger Publications, Inc
SEPT – Somatic experiencing - Wikipedia
SMPT – Sensorimotor psychotherapy - Wikipedia
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or standard CBTs, like…
REBT – Rational emotive behavior therapy - Wikipedia
Schematherapy – Schema therapy - Wikipedia
Learned Optimism – Learned optimism - Wikipedia
Standard CBT – Psychotherapy | NAMI: National Alliance on Mental Illness & scroll down
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If you/she/he needs a professional intervention to get through treatment resistance, tell me where you live, and I will get back to you with leads to those services.
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Look into the RAISE Project at Google.
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Look for mental illness clubhouses in your area (which can be hugely helpful… but may also pose risks). Dig through the many articles at Google to locate and investigate them.
yeah, dopamine 
and clorazil:) here,its called leponex…I stopped eating on it also but I am special case…
notmoses,it was you who was telling me that maybe I could be a borderline with psychotic features? I cant remember well…but maybe I am schizophrenic with negatives symptoms as told by my ex pdoc…
I think ill get mad outside by fear, I think others can see my madness… I am so stubborn that I don’t want to do even therapys… my mom is so against them,she hates psychologists…but she likes psychiatrists …what can I do? struggle?
is it more easy in usa? wow… I am too dumb right now… in fact,notmoses, my sister told me once she doesn’t want to know anything about my illness… she is also so cruel sometimes… her husband doesn’t love to talk about any kind of illnesses… and my mom is telling me to get used that ill be unhappy forever… no way!!! ill get through this… I am just afraid of it of course… I am remembering my first symptoms, my anguish in the airports, I had troubles breathing,it started like this… but I liked my demons at the time, I was feeding myself by them,yeah…
It’s possible, of course, that you are “schizophrenic with negative symptoms.” But what I keep seeing in your posts is a highly aroused autonomic (“fight or flight”) nervous system pinned to the right of the symbolic dial in sympathetic pitch that looks more (admittedly from a great distance) like “borderline with psychotic features.”
In either case, one can be expected to benefit from the use of lower to moderate dose levels of anti-psychotics that have more benign side-effects profiles. Clozaril is not one of those. I know they use Zyprexa olanzepine and Geodon ziprasidone over there. Not sure about Seroquel quetiapine, Abilify arapiprasole or Latuda lurasidone. (I’m no fan of Risperdal risperidone, but it does work great for some people.)
The POINT here is that patients with borderline and/or bipolar conditions are most likely to be OVER-medicated and “doused” into “the-air-is-like-caro-syrup” confusion and struggle if they are mis-diagnosed with sz. And that will look like negative symptom sz.
If your are not truly sz, but currently non-manic in bipolar and depressed with borderlinism as the behavioral presentation, you could be greatly helped – but not “cured” – with a lower dose anti-P once the “right” one for your genetics is found to work for you.
Then it comes down to…
- Work with that “psychiatrist” (or “p-doc”) to develop a medication formula that stabilizes their symptoms sufficiently so that they can tackle the psychotherapy that will disentangle their thinking.
. - The best of the psychotherapies for that currently include…
DBT – http://behavioraltech.org/resources/whatisdbt.cfm
MBSR – Welcome to the Mindful Living Blog
MBCT - Mindfulness-based cognitive therapy: theory and practice - PubMed
ACT – ACT | Association for Contextual Behavioral Science
10 StEP – Pair A Docks: The 10 StEPs of Emotion Processing
. - the even newer somatic psychotherapies like…
MBBT – An Introduction to Mind-Body Bridging & the I-System – New Harbinger Publications, Inc
SEPT – Somatic experiencing - Wikipedia
SMPT – Sensorimotor psychotherapy - Wikipedia
. - or standard CBTs, like…
REBT – Rational emotive behavior therapy - Wikipedia
Schematherapy – Schema therapy - Wikipedia
Learned Optimism – Learned optimism - Wikipedia
Standard CBT – Psychotherapy | NAMI: National Alliance on Mental Illness & scroll do
Describes me pretty much exactly in 1994, 1997, 1999, and 2002-2003. The key to the door for me was getting the right diagnosis (PTSD-driven bipolar psychosis) and on the right medication (for me, Seroquel quietiapine, but it may be different for you, and being a young female, some form of hormone therapy may be useful).
Once I got there, I could see that my family – although less ardently vicious than what you describe in your own – was truly useless. I turned to those workbooks I keep pitching on other threads. Those and staying on an ever-decreasing dose of Seroquel has led me to a pretty comfortable life if I accept my limitations.
I tried abilify,seroquel,invega,solian. they made me more crazy,really… the best was zyprexa but it made me also agitated,i couldn’t think(I have already problems with my thinking,with my imagination)… and I don’t even mention the physical alful side effects… no latuda here… I really tried them all…for 7 years… the pdoc of my father was sure that I am borderline but he was surprised to see me in worse state once…I hated myself and I hated everybody… I cant feel loved anymore also…I just feel depressed right now, my anger points his nose sometimes,but I have the faith that I can control it. is it just an illusion? i abused with weed for a long time also but it was calming me…sorry to be so annoying,i know i am not fun. i am just like repeating the same things now, kinda of bugging :)…
My spell check lacks anything to do with psychiatry!
Which suggests that while plain, garden variety Mary Jane may be a bad idea, a refined cannabinoid may be a good one… if you can get that stuff there.
In the mean time, I would try my best to get some light exercise. Just walking around the back yard if that’s all you can do. Or cleaning your apartment. (That might become OCD-level compulsive, but even that might be better as a defense than what you’re experiencing now.) Life is usually better when we get into out bodies.
MBBT – An Introduction to Mind-Body Bridging & the I-System – New Harbinger Publications, Inc
SEPT – Somatic experiencing - Wikipedia
SMPT – Sensorimotor psychotherapy - Wikipedia
Mine, too, partner. (I =hate= SpellCheck.) (Sometimes. 
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thank you notmoses,really. yeah,thats what i try to do right now cause i don’t go out really a lot… i clean my house, i am reading,watching movies,surfing on the net,everything which keeps my brain active…sometimes i get a little bit agitated but that’s okay…sometimes i am still sad of course,thats it:(… in the past, iwas refusing to do any kind of activity,and i got worse…
i have a veloargometre here(a home bicycle),ill see if i can get on it :)…
otherwise, i cant think a lot in fact,i have this problem :(…