You’re preaching to the choir. I was never “thin” but I was healthy. The Seroquel and Risperdal made me gain 145 lbs. I can understand wanting more support but sometimes you can only get it from yourself. I waited for years for someone to help me but in the end I realized I had to do it for myself. What I’ve learned is you are the only one you can depend on. Yeah other people can be there for you, but ultimately it’s all you. Something that has changed my perspective, my drive, and has brought the right things at the right time has been my Buddhist practice. If you have a faith that brings you support lean on that. Use it to change your perspective. Always know though that you will get support from this site also. Good luck! 
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Hi CloudDog, if I decide to quit sugar, I 'll do the Harcombe diet, which seems to be a very healthy and easy diet. But even if sugar is said to be bad for our health and it doesn’t add to us any nutrition elements, I think it helps us in the mood. How do you feel now that you don’t eat sugar, how is your everyday mood? Also, a friend of mine who is “stronger” than me in discipline, said to me that she had quit sugar for 2 years. I can’t imagine myself not eating sugar for a month, how about 2 years or, even worse, the rest of my life?
I just don’t have the courage to do so.
I was overweight even before meds. Do you have abilify in your country? That’s what I’m on in addition to the Geodon and Risperidone. I just came out of the hospital where I gained a lot of weight due to eating in the cafeteria because the hospital food was so bad a lot of the times. I’m on a slow carb diet with one cheat day a week, it’s known as the Tim Ferriss diet, which is pretty hard to follow but it’s the only one where I have lost weight fast and had 6pack abs and very low bodyfat. I need to basically start the diet all over again and the first 2 weeks are really hard. You say you can’t quit sweets and fatty foods, but want to be thin, you’re not gonna get those 2 things no matter how hard you exercise. Maybe I’m more motivated to look slim, I have lost 50 or 60 pounds in the past several times and had the “slim look”. I had to live with my parents for a long time and then I gained it all back, now I’ve been living alone for 5 months and have lost 30 pounds without being on the diet too strictly, been going too crazy on the cheat days etc. It’s amazing how fast you start gaining the weight back when you quit the diet. Maybe a change in medication will help, but I wouldn’t count on it.
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I 'm doing therapy, but it’s a start yet. I don’t think we can always do things. Sometimes it’s a timing thing. Maybe I need to wait until I feel strong and ready for it as I said. But when someone is hungry all the time, by not eating, he/she will end up eating the whole fridge, or push himself/herself for the rest of their lives, so, that is not practical. As I said, I must be ready for it.
You get in a better mood from eating sugar because there is a high… A spike in blood sugar… Without any sugar my mood is stable like the same as not having a craving for a cigarette and then relieving that craving with a smoke
I feel like why should I need it now and I feel out from under the man
i feel like I’ve gone all cave man… Where fruit comes and the autumn and honeysuckle comes in the spring and once in your life you taste honey
It’s so unnecessary I have been where you are I spent two years trying to get off sugar with Atkins it was pretty desperate
The only thing that made me cave in was a very stressful two months where I ate probably 6000 cal a day I lost my no button
When things get that bad you just have to do something about it
Commit to these rules for two weeks and you’ll never look back
whenever I tried to give up sugar before I always substituted I would have dates or satsumas till they came out of my ears is the chemical addiction are you addicted to sugar? If so it’s just an addiction addictions can be bested
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We do have Abilify, but it doesn’t work for me. I’ ve tried all medicines that cause the least weight gain, but I was unfortunate at all. Even Risperdal now doesn’t get out all my delusions. I wouldn’t want to eat fatty foods and sweets if I weren’t on Risperdal, I am sure about that, and even if I did, I could have control on it. Now, with medicines, I loose control, so, please, don’t blame me for that. It’s not my fault. Being on a diet in which you are hungry is not a solution, because sooner or later you will stop it and gain back weight. I want to totally get out of my eating disorder. I don’t know if that depends on me. I just wish I could reduce Risperdal, but that can’t be at the moment.
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Yeah, ok, I know sugar is an addiction, but can you rely on yourself that for the rest of your life you won’t eat sugar even if others offer it to you? Even if it is hard the first 10 days and then get used to it as you said, who tells me that I won’t fall into temptation to eat sugar in 2 years for example? Or 10, or 20? I think an addiction is an addiction. Very few people can totally cut themselves off of it, if that is a cigarette, or drug, or sugar, or anything else. I love food and I don’t think I am strong enough to quit it for ever. Do you believe the opposite for yourself? If you do, you are a hero then. As for me, my only pleasures in life is food, bathing with hot water and internet. If I cut one of these of, I 'll be miserable.
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I understand that because I say I don’t have the courage to stop smoking. I smoke 2 cigarettes a day which isn’t much but I don’t want to quit enough. Are you sure it isn’t boredom? What are you busy doing? Because I get bored into wanting my cigarettes.
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Someone on here says that he didn’t eat sugar in the 80s… To me that is the challenge ! I want to do better, ! he went to 250 0A meetings during that time and I thought I don’t want to go to that many meetings and I want to do better
This freedom is wonderful and I swear if someone makes me have a piece of cake I’ll eat it and then suffer back to abstinence that happened once in the last few weeks
a couple of times I binged on pineapple or once or twice sultanas once or twice and orange juice but even those cravings are passing now
I was absolutely desperate every time i failed
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I don’t work, so, I 'm not busy. It’s not boredom, it’s an addiction like CloudDog said. It’s like heroin. And as I said, even if I totally cut this habit, who can tell me that I will not start it over in a month or two, or even years? I think it’s like alcoholic people who stop drinking alcohol and after some time they relapse.
If it’s any encouragement, it’s been years since I’ve had a weight problem.
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So, you are saying that if you eat a piece of cake for example you will feel like you have relapsed again and you start over? I am not sure if I understood well. For how long did you feel cravings for sugar and its derivatives?
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So, now you eat sugar or not? That’s my main problem, and to repeat what I initially said, the only diet I can follow to loose some weight effectively, is the Harcombe diet, which though forbids sugar for the rest of my life, as well as processed carbs, which is not so much a problem, because my mother buys only non-processed carbs.
I’m not addicted to sugar and, yes, I eat it as well as processed carbs. Being a vegan is by choice as I don’t process animal protein well.
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I’m five eight, weight two hundred and fifty pounds, and have lost all my will to move. I’m worried about my weight too, I should shed pretty much one hundred pounds.
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A friends mum invited me round for profiteroles and I acceptedbecause it was like being force-fed
I walked in and there they were on the table I don’t think there was any saying no I don’t eat sugar to that one
Funnily it didn’t give me cravings the next day so it was just a little blip
If I do you have sugar I am willing to take the consequences of craving for a long time before coming back to having none at all
I am willing to suffer just to get back to this freedom
It used to drive me crazy buying cake for my husbandbut even that is not an issue it is just a huge food group that I have nothing to do with at all
I don’t mind how much of it is around me nowI think someone above said it might have been you that it has to be the right time… I totally accept that and it is like flipping a switch in my brain I gave up smoking nine years ago and I compare it to that
I’ve had relapse dreams where I had a biscuit and I need is another biscuit so badly but I was going to wait another 50 days I was going to have one biscuit every 50 days from then on imagine anything more difficult than that
Show me someone addicted to sugar who can be limited to one biscuit every 50 daysn
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The cravings lasted 10 days
I was climbing the walls… Then suddenly I made my decision again and I have been fine since
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Thank you everyone for your replies!
@PinCushion, congrats for being a vegan!
@neveragain, I wish you good luck!
@CloudDog, the diet I am discussing about, has 3 phases. The first one, 5 very strict days but easy to follow at least for me, then in the second phase there is food that is added, no sugar to those two phases and I am ok with that I hope. But, the problem is the 3rd phase, which is for my whole life. I don’t think I can see, smell desserts and not eat at all, I don’t have many other addictions and I am not sure if I can keep this. It’s a risk. If I start now perhaps I 'll be ok, but then after some years I may relapse again, and will have to start over, for which I don’t have the strength. I just hope I 'll be on a diet soon and I can keep it.
I am trying to restrict processed sugar to one day per week. The other days I am experimenting with using honey as a sweetener if I have to find an alternative. It’s impossible to go completely without sugar unless one becomes a monk, it seems.
In the interest of transparency, I’ve blown the no sugar thing all to hell this week, although I have stayed under my calorie limit on every day except for one.
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